Not So Polite Dinner Conversation: lies told about Planned Parenthood, so does religion make you more moral?

The attacks on Planned Parenthood were started with a lie, continued with lies when the Christian organization, Center for Medical Progress (known to have lied before), intentionally tried to edit the videos to present people untruthfully, and have continued with the lies told by politicians who are too lazy or too biased to care about the truth.

What does it say about a religion that requires lies to press its claims? What does it say about those who remain willfully ignorant and who spread such lies? It seems that both are not interested in truth or freedom, but only in control.

It also seems that these folks sure didn’t notice those parts of the bible that say that lying is a big no-no, especially lying about other people.

Postscript (08/2/2015):   I’m not fond of HuffPo, but one has to go where the data is.  More evidence that the actions of TrueChristians are dependent on falsehoods:

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – where we find more lies told by TrueChristians, in order to defame people….. Pity that the bible insists that lying is a sin

Not surprisingly, TrueChristians(tm)  are trying to destroy Planned Parenthood, an organization that helps many more women than any set of prayers.

They need to lie to do so.  Not surprising at all.  And what god hates liars?  Oh yes, the Christian one….

To find the facts, and not Christian lies, you can go here:

Thanks, my dear TrueChristians(tm), who show again that your religion isn’t anything to be admired and that you don’t even follow it yourselves.   So much for your demands for putting the first 1o commandments from Exodus on public buildings.  Bearing false witness seems to be a biggie.



From the Bar – a handful of new spirits and wines to try plus a new snack

drinksWe went on a shopping trip to replenish the bar. These were mostly on sale at the PA liquor stores when we were there last week.

Bacardi Black (Carta Negra) Rum – This is a strange one. To our palate, it is wood and smoke, coal smoke. There is the standard sweet molasses rum taste, but it’s nearly overrun by the bitter smoke. We’re also still not sure if we like this. I think it should work in some kind of a tiki-style drink(something named for a volcano!), but haven’t come upon a good recipe. When mixed with cola, it has this peculiarly nostalgic taste of Vicks Formula 44 cough syrup.

Devotion Vodka – I was looking for a vodka to keep on the shelf, and this bottle caught my “goth before there were goths” eye; a pair of angel wings and a fancy font will do that. This is very smooth, a fairly heavy mouthfeel for a vodka, and a bit of sweetness on the flavor, but not much else. It is a corn based vodka, and happily doesn’t taste anything like the corn whiskies aka moonshine, that are enjoying some popularity. It’s marketed as “gluten-free” “no sugar added” and “gmo-free”, all things that I do not care about in the least.

Rhum Barbancourt 5 Star(aged 8 years) – After reading so much about tiki drinks, I wanted to try a rhum agricole. They are quite different than molasses-distilled rums. There is still a bit of the rum taste, but it’s like the lightest rum ever, very smooth, with a touch of grassiness and citrus fruit.

Woop Woop Chardonay – This is a decent unoaked chardonnay from Australia.   For $10, it does the job. Since it’s unoaked, I can taste the minerality of it. It’s very dry, and I find it similar to pinot Grigio and similar wines.

Sky River Blackberry Honey Wine – This caught my husband’s eye since he knows I love biplanes and blackberries. One of my favorite books when I was in junior high was “Falcons of France” about the Lafayette Escadrille (you can read the book at internet archive) This was a good mead, or more appropriately a melomel, with a bit of the berry funkiness to it. We’re definitely mead purists, making our own, but this was a good one.

And a new snack!

Pasta Chips – This is a new snack that I’m quite taken with. We got the Garlic Olive Oil flavor and they don’t stint on the garlic. Yum!  The chip is a very thin cracker made from pasta and baked. I really like the crunch, and I’m a texture fiend.

That’s all. Eat and drink well!

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – now just where does it say “you shalt not do your job” in the bible

So… we have an entire bunch of clerks in Tennessee that have resigned their jobs rather than even have a chance of granting a marriage license to someone they don’t like, that being folks who want to marry whom they want, and not whom the clerks want them to marry.

It’s great that other people who don’t hate so much can get now some decent jobs (22% population below federal poverty level).  But where does it say in the bible that you don’t do your job or obey the government?  The bible repeatedly says obey the government.  Why?  Because the Judeo/Christian god put every government in place and every king or leader in place and this god doesn’t make mistakes.  It doesn’t say only follow it when you feel like it.

If the clerks want to cite not being yoked with others, well, they’re a bit late in that since I can be pretty sure that they’ve associated with plenty of people who have gotten divorced and remarried, Christians they don’t share beliefs with, etc.  As for calling on the “commandments”, I’m sure that the clerks don’t follow all of them though they are quick to claim that the bit about homosexuals is all-important.  How many people who work on the “Sabbath” have they murdered, in God’s name, of course.  Makes it hard to go out for lunch after church, doesn’t it?

Considering that there must have been a lot of prayers going up to prevent same-sex marriage and those failed, one can make some guesses about what was going on:

This god is fine with same-sex marriage and indeed supports it.

The Christians praying were doing it wrong.

There is no God.

Buh-bye, Pope, Bell and Butler.  Don’t let the screen door hit you on the bum on your way out.

Post-script – in a amusing turn, we have a TrueChristian(tm) Colorstorm, being unable to quote his bible in support of the clerks, and himself, but claims that Thoreau’s “Life Without Principles” supports what the clerks did.  You can see the discussion in comments.

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – marriage and a lovely example of TrueChristian hysteria

Remember this. credit - Greta Christina

Remember this.
credit – Greta Christina

Whoo-hoo, marriage for all!   I hope that everyone who chooses to get married is as happy as my husband and I.

Rather than reviewing the SCOTUS decisions since others have done a better job than me, I found a typical opinion piece by one of the horrified TrueChristians, or as he puts it “orthodox Christians” (not to be confused with Orthodox Christians, of the eastern varieties). It’s much more fun to watch the schadenfreude and hypocrisy that such people create and reap for themselves.

First, a few thoughts though on the decision. The reason rights are enshrined in the Constitution is because states shouldn’t have that power. We fought a war over that. We’ve constantly been adding classes of people who get to enjoy those rights.   The dissenting justices were amazingly unprofessional sounding in their writings and ended up using nothing more than personal attacks and the logical fallacy “appeal to tradition”. All of their arguments would have been just great in defending slavery or denying women the right to vote. It strikes me as they lost their minds as soon as their religion was under fire for simply being wrong. They aren’t special snowflakes any more. Another thing that these idiots can’t quite get is that there are churches that have no problem with people who are gay and lesbian. All they want to do is enforce their particular religion on everyone.

Now, let’s get to the fun bit. An opinion piece out on the Time magazine website was written by Rod Dreher, a writer for the magazine The American Conservative. For a bunch of people who claim to hate big government, they sure want it when it can force their religion on others. We wouldn’t expect anything less. Dreher is the person who claimed that the Roman Catholic Church wasn’t at fault for allowing priests to molest children, it was the gays!

This post is full of sarcasm. Anything that resembles agreeing with these twits isn’t.

At least the fellow is smart enough not to claim that the sky is falling, at least “not yet”.   It’s always so embarrassing when “orthodox Christians”, and Orthodox Christians (not the same), and evangelical Christians, and Protestant Christians, and Catholic Christians, etc ad infinitum fail repeatedly in their predictions of how their god is going to get us, honest, really soon now.

We’re supposedly now in “post-Christian America.”  Funny how that seems to be not the case because there are churches still on many corners, still hundreds of media outlets that are entirely Christian, my local screaming preacher on street corner is still there.  Bibles are in every library and every bookstore.  Scads of websites and blogs, and golly, Mr. Dreher is still writing his very own and very TrueChristian opinions on the Time magazine website!  You know you are persecuted when you are in Time. Continue reading

A Gay Dad Sounds Off on the Terror Threatening to Be Unleashed on California Families

A Gay Dad Sounds Off on the Terror Threatening to Be Unleashed on California Families.


Unsurprisingly, there are still more attempts to legitimize the actions of conservative theists.   The Westboro Baptists aren’t the only ones that bear watching and confronting by pointing out their actions and showing them for what they are.