Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – and the theists with blood on their hands

I got my hands slapped for pointing out on Facebook that Christians and Christianity and other religions have lied and are causing a disaster. I guess theists don’t like the truth that their gods aren’t real and their holy books make false promises.

We have Christians intentionally ignoring health and safety directives.   And now they are getting arrested for putting the public in danger. This will of course be lied about by them and they will insist that they are being persecuted.

They aren’t and haven’t been. They have willfully decided that their nonsense is more important than anyone’s life. They place everyone’s safety on the altar of their ignorance and selfishness.

There is no magical healing. There are no gods. We are stuck with dealing with this on our own.

Those who support such ignorant and reckless behavior have blood on their hands. It’s that simple.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-pastor-arrested-after-holding-church-services-despite-coronavirus-orders-n1172276

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/03/pastor-who-claimed-covid-19-hysteria-was-plot-against-trump-dies-from-virus/

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2020/03/jill-rodrigues-breaking-ohios-mandatory-stay-at-home-order/

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51701039

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-pastor-defies-coronavirus-order-draws-over-1-000-people-n1168501

https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-pastor-claims-he-healed-viewers-coronavirus-through-their-tv-screens-1492044

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2020/03/09/jackson-homovirus-is-destroying-the-family/

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/29/scamvangelist-declares-covid-19-finished-after-commanding-god-to-destroy-it/

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/11/814550474/missouri-sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-for-selling-fake-coronavirus-cure

https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/03/24/pastor-arkansas-church-coronavirus-warning-greers-ferry/

‘If You’re Carrying The Virus, We Declare You Healed In Jesus’ Name’: Pastor Holds Services Despite Outbreak, Says Coronavirus Is Of Demonic Origin

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Is-Zionist-coronavirus-cure-Halal-Iranian-cleric-says-yes-620900

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-iran-became-a-new-epicenter-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak

https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2020/2/25/applying-essential-oil-to-anus-cures-coronavirus-iranian-cleric?utm_source=facebook

https://www.propublica.org/article/as-coronavirus-cases-rise-members-of-some-ultra-orthodox-jewish-communities-continue-to-congregate

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/liberty-university-coronavirus-student-positive-jerry-falwell-jr


Now, many Christians, and I’m sure other believers will complain and insist that one can’t judge their religion by the people practicing it. Sorry, we can and we will. Your god does nothing, and your people lie.

What the Boss Likes – cat photos

because there aren’t enough cat photos on the internet

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – the United States of America 2020 Census form

This is the sheet of the 2020 US census that has us telling a little about ourselves. My household seem to get one of the shorter versions, but *all* will have this on them.

2020 US Census Form

 

For you who don’t want to squint at the picture, the most curious question is below
What is Person 1’s race? (the print area is 16 characters)
White – Print, for example, German, Irish, English, Italian, Lebanese, Egyptian, etc

Black or African Am. – Print, for example, African American, Jamaican, Haitian, Nigerian, Ethopian, Somali, etc.

American Indian or Alaskan Native – Print name of enrolled or principal tribe(s), for example Navajo Nation, Blackfeet Tribe, Mayan, Aztec, Native Village of Barro Inupiat Traditional Government, Nome Eskimo Community 

Chinese

Filipino

Asian Indian

Vietnamese

Korean

Japanese

Native Hawaiian

Samoan

Chamorro (these are folks from Guam and the Mariannas Islands)

Other Asian – Print, for example, Pakistani, Cambodian, Hmong, etc

Other Pacific Islander – Print, for example, Tongan, Fijian, Marshallese, etc

Some other race – Print race or origin

Now we’ve had some problems here with Trump and his bigoted followers and allies with what was going to be on our census. The Trumpies wanted this on the census “’Is this person a Citizen of the United States?’”

This was, of course, to feed their hate and fear of immigrants.   It was kept off the census.

But as you can see above, we have what they seem to think will work. From what I suspect, a lot of people will put their ancestry and this gives our white supremacists something to work on since that orange asshole only wants people from the Nordic countries just like his wannabee nazi friends. You of course remember the reference to “shithole countries”.   The 2010 Census form didn’t have such questions on it for people of caucasian or African descent. 2010questionnaire

Now, I’m quite a mixed back when it comes to ancestry.  I did one of those gene tests for my folks, knowing that anything they had I would have, so didn’t need to get one for myself.  My ancestry is Austrian, English, Nordic (the  alpha 1 anti-trypisin deficiency genetic screw up originated there), Hungarian and evidently I have a little of Sephardic Jew in there somewhere.  What the fuck am I supposed to put down?

This question makes no sense *unless* you want to figure out who are the “pure” people and who aren’t.

I’m putting “American” in the box.  No one needs to know where you came from, just who you are now.

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – Theists, the jig is up

Complete Christian idiots
Complete Christian idiots

So, here we are with a pandemic.   I’m working from home now and so is my husband for at least the next 14 days. We aren’t in the risky populations but my folks are, my dad having COPD thanks to a lifetime of smoking and inhaling gods know what from being a farmer and my mom from just being older. My family has alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency aka genetic emphysema running through it. This means that anyone with two of the copies of the gene has lungs that react badly to many things, like my aunt who was a teacher for years and the chalk dust was what made her lungs crap. My uncle died of complications from breathing in silage dust and welding fumes.

Weirdly enough, this gene mutation is also thought to protect people from intestinal worms so it did have a limited good effect when worms were a much larger issue than they are now. The smoke from inside sources of heat back then must have been a problem though.

So, yes, stay home, avoid people and deal with it.

What is interesting now is that religions are having to deal with this in a way I don’t recall seeing before. We have some Christians realizing that their god has no power over a virus and believing science quite a lot now, despite their attempts to claim that it is wrong in relation to their religion. We also have other Christians ignoring reality and making things worse by their lies.

In both cases, we have that the claims that religions make shown to be completely false. No magic god, no magic healing, there is just reality and we have to deal with it. Trump declared a “day of prayer” and unsurprisingly, nothing at all happened.

It is very much past time to ditch magical thinking.

Here is a good article on the virus: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/covid-19-update-what-you-need-to-know/

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – just in case you weren’t completely sure that conservative Christians were inhumane

Shilled by Ken Ham of the failed Ark museum and the Creation museum, we have this prize.  If you don’t want to click, here’s a screen capture of their vileness.  It wouldn’t surprise me if they take this down to try to hide what they really think.

“Put together a medical mission team in your church for a local response (kind of like Samaritan’s Purse, but a local effort). The beauty of such a team is that infectious disease outbreaks happen regularly. Having something in place will mobilize the church moving forward.

Purchase as many personal hygiene products that are currently in high demand. We need to quit making memes about the shortages of toilet paper and hand sanitizer worldwide and begin to realize that people perceive these items as a need. Churches should stock up on these supplies for distribution to their local communities. Ideas for this include taking supplies to your community or putting together fliers indicating that your church is distributing free personal hygiene products. And if people quit overbuying these supplies, why wouldn’t the church not use the same items for its members during our weekly services? It just makes sense to promote good personal hygiene because it is ultimately derived from a biblical worldview.

Have someone creative and biblical write a tract for distribution to each person receiving the personal hygiene products. What a travesty to meet people’s physical needs and neglect to tell them about their most important spiritual need: a relationship with the Creator Redeemer Jesus Christ. Here’s an idea of something you can include to answer hard questions in light of sickness and death.”

So, we have Christians who think it’s great that there is a pandemic, and who want to horde supplies, but supplies that no one needs for the coronavirus.  And then only give them out if they can also proselytize to the person who think they need toilet paper.

This underlines that conservative Christians do only help people for their own benefit, e.g. their desperate need for external validation.  They have no problem in using fear and misery to make people agree with them.

Terrorism is an evil thing.