I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, 'wouldn't it be much worse if life *were* fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them?' So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe. – M. Cole
Unsurprisingly, one more Christian finds they need to lie about how the world will end if they don’t get their way.
Libraries are often at the front line of the war christians want to wage on everyone else, and it’s happening again in Illinois. I had thought to become a librarian when choosing what to go to college for, but I knew I’d get in a fight with idiots such as these
“But there was still time to fight back, (Brian) Anderson said. He called on the God-fearing people of Metropolis to meet the enemy where Satan was planning his assault: at their town’s library.”
““God said he did not give us a spirit of fear,” Baxter (the fired librarian) said, alluding to the scary themes sometimes found in Halloween books. “Why would I want to instill that on anyone?””
ROFL. Evidently Ms. Baxter has never read her bible or chooses to lie about it.
“Baxter also elaborated on her refusal to apply for state grants. She had chosen instead, she said, to rely on God to provide.
“We don’t need to live by the regulations and the rules of this state,” Baxter said. “We are here to serve and to honor God.”
By then, some members of the library board had had enough. Richard Kruger, a longtime lawyer and concerned citizen, had advised them that Baxter’s blending of religion and government service was inviting a civil rights lawsuit.”
Any real librarian knows that one *never* avoids getting grants. It’s notable that Ms. Baxter is evidently an anti-gov’t failure with claiming grants are from “Satan” (of course said in the voice of Dana Carvey’s Church Lady).
“Seated alongside the board, Baxter, the library director, argued against the Library Bill of Rights. The Metropolis Public Library didn’t need state funding, she said. In fact, she’d never applied for any state grants during her tenure.
“There are grants we can get,” Baxter said, “where we don’t have to barter with Satan in order to get the funding.””
The article is a relatively long one and the essential points are that some christians are bigots and some aren’t. Neither can show that their claims are true, which makes their religion rather pointless.
This is why religion is no way to make decisions about public services.
I have the misfortune to be in the congress district for Scott Perry, a well known conservative congressman, who was part of the January 6th coup plot, and who is a typical liar and fraud.
He now is making more legislation to feed his ignorant and hateful supporters. Called the “No Propaganda” act, it is to cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, a quasi government entity that handles the various public tv and radio stations around the country.
It’s of course, hilarious to see poor Scott whine about propaganda when that’s all the conservatives do. He has no evidence of any bias, but oh dear, he must call anyone who dares contradict him “woke”. Curious how he can’t say that CPB is lying about anything at all.
And his bill isn’t even up on his website. Tsk.
Here’s his press release with my commentary:
“Washington, D.C. – Today, U.S. Representatives Scott Perry (PA-10), Thomas Massie (KY-04), Mary Miller (IL-15), and Andy Ogles (TN-05) introduced the No Propaganda Act to defund the biased Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB). The organization and its subsidiaries are staffed by extreme liberals, including the newly appointed divisive CEO of the National Public Radio (NPR) who has openly campaigned for Joe Biden.”
Yep, many people have campaigned for others and can still be unbiased. Poor Scott can’t figure that out. Unsurprisingly, his fellow conservatives sponsoring this bill are:
Thomas Massie (KY-04) – a nutcase who wants the Dept of Education abolished. He has voted against sanctions against Russia, Iran and North Korea. He has spoken at the John Birch Society, aka KKK-lite. Of cousre, he is a climate change denier, and simply one more idiot in a caucus full of idiots. Surprising, that ol’ Marjorie Taylor Green isn’t on this list of supporters. He is also an anti-vaxxer, and the typical antisemite when claiming that vaccines were as bad as the holocaust. It’s hilarious that his own party members calls him a “dumbass”.
Mary Miller (IL-15) who is basically a female version of Massie, and who voted against giving medals to the police who defended the capitol on January 6. She’s amusingly known for saying the following and the poor excuse by her campaign later, made when Roe v. Wade was cut down:
““I want to thank you for the historic victory for white life in the Supreme Court yesterday,” Miller said, then raised her arms in an animated clap amid cheers from the crowd, which numbered in the thousands on a sweltering day in West Central Illinois.”
She also wants to cancel birthright citizenship, and is again just one more failed Christian nationalist.
and finally, Andy Ogles (TN-05) who is again someone who lies about January 6. He also seems to have the same problem many conservatives have when lying about their resume and education:
“On February 26, Ogles said that he was “mistaken” in claiming to have an MTSU degree in international relations, and claimed that he requested his college transcript the week before, and only learned then that his degree was actually in Liberal Studies.[4][6][10]NewsChannel 5 called Ogles’s statement “apparently preemptive” because Ogles “ignored our requests for comment” after the media outlet obtained his MTSU transcript from an old job application.[4] On February 27, NewsChannel 5 published Ogles’s transcript, which showed that Ogles took only one economics course at a community college, scoring a C pass, while he passed nine (and failed several other) political science courses at MTSU.[4] By February 28, Ogles’s congressional biography was edited to simply state: “Andy obtained his degree from MTSU.””
Ogles has repeatedly made public claims of being an “economist.”[16][17] After NewsChannel 5 questioned how much formal training in economics Ogles had, he said he was an economist because when “you look at the body of someone’s work … I’ve spent the last decade working on economic policy and tax policy. “[3][9] During that time, Ogles had worked for roughly five years as an anti-tax lobbyist with Americans for Prosperity, and then for a year as the executive director of the Laffer Center, an organisation run by economist Arthur Laffer.[9] The executive director position seemed to involve mainly “administrative” work, reported NewsChannel 5, with Ogles not being named as an author of any economic reports uploaded on the Laffer Center’s website.[3][9] Ogles’ congressional website claims that “while working at the Laffer Center, Andy became a nationally recognized expert on tax policy and healthcare, having been featured in numerous publications, including The Wall Street Journal and Investor’s Business Daily“.[3]NewsChannel 5 questioned this claim, being unable to find any articles in the publications independently citing him as an expert, only finding three columns written by Ogles in these publications, all of which were written when he was a lobbyist, before he worked for the Laffer Center.[3]
At a political debate, Ogles called himself “a former member of law enforcement, worked in international sex crimes, specifically child trafficking“, while at a separate forum, he said: “I went into law enforcement. I worked in human trafficking.”[3][7]NewsChannel 5 reported that Ogles was a volunteer reserve deputy with the Williamson County Sheriff’s Office from 2009 to 2011, with his position revoked for failing to meet minimum standards, failing to progress in field training, and failing to attend required meetings.[3] The Williamson County Sheriff’s Office said that records do not show Ogles trained or worked against international sex trafficking as a reserve deputy.” – wikipedia
Oh, and there’s this too: “Ogles faced criticism when nearly $25,000 in donations received via GoFundMe to finance a child burial garden in his stillborn child’s memory appeared to have gone unspent” – wikipedia
Such perfect allies for Scott.
“The American Taxpayer is footing the bill for a woke media corporation that pretends to be impartial while pushing Chinese propaganda,” said Rep. Perry. “CPB cannot be allowed to keep using your hard-earned tax dollars to push a biased and political agenda that goes against what’s best for Americans.”
Claiming to be unbiased and serving in the best interest of the public, the CPB funds content that incorporates woke and divisive messaging. A whistleblower, and 25-year veteran of NPR, recently called out NPR for allowing its “pro-Democrat political leanings to seep into editorial judgments, including its decision to turn a blind eye to the Hunter Biden laptop story.” In addition to influencing public opinion about U.S. politics, CPB has worked with a Chinese Communist Party-controlled media outlet registered as a foreign agent to air a documentary promoting Chinese propaganda. These efforts are funded in part by CPB grants paid for by American Citizens. “
No evidence for any of this being lies or being illegal. And no evidence for any chinese propaganda. The “whistleblower”, Uri Berliner, has yet to show evidence for his claims, and unsurprisingly, was suspended for not for exposing any corruption, but for breaking his contract. His claims that his nonsense must be supported fail since no one is required to give equal time to baseless nonsense. No bias doesn’t mean too stupid to call out lies.
“Congress must exercise oversight of the CPB and stop corruption in its tracks,” said Rep. Andy Ogles. “Taxpayers fund the CPB and it should be a source that provides a truly neutral and balanced perspective. That can only be achieved through the diversity of political ideology. Recent reports from a whistleblower indicate the CPB is nothing more than a propaganda machine for the Democrat party. I thank Congressman Perry for leading this bill to defund it and I’m proud to cosponsor.”
Unsprisingly, Ongles has no evidence of this bias either.
“Founded in 1967, the CPB is a publicly funded non-profit corporation that promotes and advances public broadcasting. Throughout the years, Congress has appropriated nearly $15 billion to the CPB, which distributes the funds to publicly owned television and radio stations like the Public Broadcasting Service.”
Yep, that’s true and millions of Americans, including me, depended on the educational content and lack of biased information when we were growing up. As usual, conservatives are terrified of education and the truth.
Guess what came from public television? Mr. Rogers the anti-Christian conservative asshole. And yes, I know that he was a christian and a pastor. Those things don’t always make someone a failure. Here’s Mr. Rogers defending public television.
And now some memes for those who enjoy them on my blog:
Here’s yet another failed apologist who is quite sure he’s the “sophisticated theologian” aka a christian who looks down on other christians, when they need to feel special. Nothing much new other than the memes at the end.
“Generally, the “Christian” church member has not been taught anything of real substance, so he or she is totally unequipped to answer these types of challenges. Actually, he or she might eventually wind up aligning with skeptics to echo these inquiries!
Saints, let us contemplate this as mature Bible students, going through much trouble in search for answers….”
ROFL. Unsurprisingly, Shawn is a failure as the “christian ambassador” he claims to be. His “mature” Christianity is no more true than the christianity (in truth, Paulianity) that his fellow christians have. It’s so sweet that he thinks he’s a “saint”, and has the only right version of this cult.
“Firstly (mark it well!), the LORD God did not create robots or machines, people who automatically follow His will and do right. If He did, the cry would surely be heard, “God is such a tyrant for not letting me do or believe what I want!” Therefore, He gave us liberty to choose right or choose wrong. If we choose wrong, then we portray the situation as follows: “I did nothing wrong, so it is God’s fault for letting me face the consequences of my poor choices.””
Alas, his bible says otherwise, since both Jesus and Paul say no free will, Matthew 13 and Romans 9.
“Secondly (and we dare not forget this either!), JEHOVAH God did not leave Himself without witness (Acts 14:15-17; Acts 17:24-31; Romans 1:18-25; Romans 2:14,15). If we choose right, we realize Bibles are everywhere: we do have access to the Word of God and can know the will of God. We recognize the fact everyone has some sense of right and wrong (conscience). Even the most primitive cultures in the most remote regions have a code of conduct. The very existence of a creation demands a Creator—so if we question if God is there, we are only showing we have not been honest with the evidence. If we are grateful for the light we have, responding positively to the evidence we can identify, God will give us more light and we will see more evidence. If we are unthankful for what evidence we have, however, our vulnerability to a darkened heart is guaranteed (Romans 1:19-32).”
Yep, same thing most, if not all, cults try to claim, that reality is evidence for their particular imaginary friend. Curious how poor Shawn can’t do what his supposed messiah promises. Per his own bible, he’s just one more fraud.
I’ve been crossing swords with a typical christian who tries desperately to claim there are no contradictions in their bible. There are, of course many, and they are qutie concentrated in the cruxifiction/resurrection nonsenes in each gospel. This would indicate, to me, that this is where this story really breaks down and shows it is entirely made up. Oh, and there are memes at the end for those who already know this stuff.
The following is a response to this fellow and I just wanted to keep it so I could get it when this inevitably happens again.
The discussion stared with my points here:
There can’t be the tomb rock still in place when seen and already rolled away when seen. There can’t be the same people entering the tomb and not entering the tomb at the same time.
and what poor “respond” claims:
“> There can’t be more than one “first” person inWe have four separate documents here. Compiled into the NT corpus. Multiple perspectives on events. This seems to escape you.> There can’t be the tomb rock still in place when seen and already rolled away when seen.> There can’t be the same people entering the tomb and not entering the tomb at the same time.Given that we have multiple independent accounts (honestly you seem oddly oblivious to this) – please show me how these problems occur in the text.”
And here we go with how the gospels fail.
Here is the scene as people enter the garden and approach the tomb:
“28 After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2 And suddenly there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord, descending from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. 4 For fear of him the guards shook and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, ‘Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where he[a] lay. 7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples, “He has been raised from the dead,[b] and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him.” This is my message for you.’ 8 So they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them and said, ‘Greetings!’ And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshipped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, ‘Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.’” Matthew 28
So here we have –
two women going to see the tomb. An angle appears and rolls back the stone and sits on it (how can an angels sit on anything?) The guards faint. The angel says that jesus is gone and they’ll see him in galilee. The two women leave the tomb having never entered. They encounter jesus and touch him. They leave andtell the apostles they are to meet jesus at a mountain in Galilee.
One may assume that the guards, once they came to, looked and perhaps went inside, making them the first.
In Mark we have:
“16 When the sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. 2 And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb. 3 They had been saying to one another, ‘Who will roll away the stone for us from the entrance to the tomb?’ 4 When they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had already been rolled back. 5 As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man, dressed in a white robe, sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed. 6 But he said to them, ‘Do not be alarmed; you are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has been raised; he is not here. Look, there is the place they laid him. 7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter that he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him, just as he told you.’ 8 So they went out and fled from the tomb, for terror and amazement had seized them; and they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid”
So here we have:
3 women going to the tomb. The rock already rolled back. No guards. The three women entered the tomb. (first in) A young man is first in the tomb. The women tell no one anything at all.
There are two endings for Mark. One mostly matches matthew. The other makes many bizarre claims, including appearing just to Mary M., what seems to be a reference the claims of meeting jesus on the road, and appearing at a table, where he makes many promises and goes straight to heaven.
In Luke we have:
“55 The women who had come with him from Galilee followed, and they saw the tomb and how his body was laid. 56 Then they returned, and prepared spices and ointments. On the sabbath they rested according to the commandment. 24 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, taking the spices that they had prepared. 2 They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they went in, they did not find the body.[a] 4 While they were perplexed about this, suddenly two men in dazzling clothes stood beside them. 5 The women[b] were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, but the men[c] said to them, ‘Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen.[d] 6 Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, 7 that the Son of Man must be handed over to sinners, and be crucified, and on the third day rise again.’ 8 Then they remembered his words, 9 and returning from the tomb, they told all this to the eleven and to all the rest. 10 Now it was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them who told this to the apostles. 11 But these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them. 12 But Peter got up and ran to the tomb; stooping and looking in, he saw the linen cloths by themselves; then he went home, amazed at what had happened.
Here we have: A group of women coming to the tomb. The stone is rolled away.No guards. The women enter the tomb. (first in) Two men suddenly appear. The women return and tell all of the apostles. The apostles don’t’ believe them. Peter goes to the tomb and finds it empty.
After this the road scene is played out and strangely, no names at all given for those apostles. They eat with jesus and realise who he is. He disappears from the story, and then reappears in Jerusalem whereever the apostles were, has lunch, shows himself as a real being, and they all wander to Bethany where Jesus leaves and it is claimed he was taken to heaven. The apostles, strangely enough, return directly to Jersualem to celebrate in the temple. You know, the temple where Caiaphas was.
In John, we have:
“20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. 2 So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, ‘They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.’ 3 Then Peter and the other disciple set out and went towards the tomb. 4 The two were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent down to look in and saw the linen wrappings lying there, but he did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen wrappings lying there, 7 and the cloth that had been on Jesus’ head, not lying with the linen wrappings but rolled up in a place by itself. 8 Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; 9 for as yet they did not understand the scripture, that he must rise from the dead. 10 Then the disciples returned to their homes. 11 But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb. As she wept, she bent over to look[a] into the tomb; 12 and she saw two angels in white, sitting where the body of Jesus had been lying, one at the head and the other at the feet. 13 They said to her, ‘Woman, why are you weeping?’ She said to them, ‘They have taken away my Lord, and I do not know where they have laid him.’ 14 When she had said this, she turned round and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not know that it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, ‘Woman, why are you weeping? For whom are you looking?’ Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, ‘Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.’ 16 Jesus said to her, ‘Mary!’ She turned and said to him in Hebrew,[b] ‘Rabbouni!’ (which means Teacher). 17 Jesus said to her, ‘Do not hold on to me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.”’ 18 Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, ‘I have seen the Lord’; and she told them that he had said these things to her.”
So: one woman comes to the tomb. (could be more than one with the reference to a “we” in the verse) The rock has been already moved. No guards. She runs to get a pair of apostles. The “other disciple” looks in the tomb and sees only the wrappings. Peter enters the tomb. (first in) The “other disciple” enters the tomb. They leave. Mary is outside and sees two angels in the tomb. She says she is crying since she doesn’t know where the body is. Jesus appears and asker why she is weeping. She has no idea that this is jesus for some mysterious reason. She is forbidden to touch jesus. Jesus says he is ascending to heaven. Mary tells her story.
We can even look more into the details. “16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17 When they saw him, they worshipped him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Matthew 28
So we have Jesus appearing on a mountain in galilee after he meets the women.
In Mark we have two endings.
This is the short ending “And afterwards Jesus himself sent out through them, from east to west, the sacred and imperishable proclamation of eternal salvation.” Which misses all of the nonsense of the long ending:
“Now after he rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, from whom he had cast out seven demons. 10 She went out and told those who had been with him, while they were mourning and weeping. 11 But when they heard that he was alive and had been seen by her, they would not believe it. 12 After this he appeared in another form to two of them, as they were walking into the country. 13 And they went back and told the rest, but they did not believe them. 4 Later he appeared to the eleven themselves as they were sitting at the table; and he upbraided them for their lack of faith and stubbornness, because they had not believed those who saw him after he had risen.[c] 15 And he said to them, ‘Go into all the world and proclaim the good news[d] to the whole creation. 16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved; but the one who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: by using my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes in their hands,[e] and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.’19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. 20 And they went out and proclaimed the good news everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that accompanied it.
Which seems to be nothing more than an attempt to try to make it match all of the others, which fails miserably. Here we have jesus meeting the men on the road, and in a inn, not on a mountain.
In Luke we have: “13 Now on that same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles[f] from Jerusalem, 14 and talking with each other about all these things that had happened. 15 While they were talking and discussing, Jesus himself came near and went with them, 16 but their eyes were kept from recognizing him. 17 And he said to them, ‘What are you discussing with each other while you walk along?’ They stood still, looking sad.[g] 18 Then one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answered him, ‘Are you the only stranger in Jerusalem who does not know the things that have taken place there in these days?’ 19 He asked them, ‘What things?’ They replied, ‘The things about Jesus of Nazareth,[h] who was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people, 20 and how our chief priests and leaders handed him over to be condemned to death and crucified him. 21 But we had hoped that he was the one to redeem Israel.[i] Yes, and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things took place. 22 Moreover, some women of our group astounded us. They were at the tomb early this morning, 23 and when they did not find his body there, they came back and told us that they had indeed seen a vision of angels who said that he was alive. 24 Some of those who were with us went to the tomb and found it just as the women had said; but they did not see him.’ 25 Then he said to them, ‘Oh, how foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have declared! 26 Was it not necessary that the Messiah[j] should suffer these things and then enter into his glory?’ 27 Then beginning with Moses and all the prophets, he interpreted to them the things about himself in all the scriptures. 28 As they came near the village to which they were going, he walked ahead as if he were going on. 29 But they urged him strongly, saying, ‘Stay with us, because it is almost evening and the day is now nearly over.’ So he went in to stay with them. 30 When he was at the table with them, he took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to them. 31 Then their eyes were opened, and they recognized him; and he vanished from their sight. 32 They said to each other, ‘Were not our hearts burning within us[k] while he was talking to us on the road, while he was opening the scriptures to us?’ 33 That same hour they got up and returned to Jerusalem; and they found the eleven and their companions gathered together. 34 They were saying, ‘The Lord has risen indeed, and he has appeared to Simon!’ 35 Then they told what had happened on the road, and how he had been made known to them in the breaking of the bread. 36 While they were talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, ‘Peace be with you.’[l] 37 They were startled and terrified, and thought that they were seeing a ghost. 38 He said to them, ‘Why are you frightened, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 Look at my hands and my feet; see that it is I myself. Touch me and see; for a ghost does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.’ 40 And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.[m] 41 While in their joy they were disbelieving and still wondering, he said to them, ‘Have you anything here to eat?’ 42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish, 43 and he took it and ate in their presence. 44 Then he said to them, ‘These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you—that everything written about me in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the psalms must be fulfilled.’ 45 Then he opened their minds to understand the scriptures, 46 and he said to them, ‘Thus it is written, that the Messiah[n] is to suffer and to rise from the dead on the third day, 47 and that repentance and forgiveness of sins is to be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses[o] of these things. 49 And see, I am sending upon you what my Father promised; so stay here in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.’ 50 Then he led them out as far as Bethany, and, lifting up his hands, he blessed them. 51 While he was blessing them, he withdrew from them and was carried up into heaven.[p] 52 And they worshipped him, and[q] returned to Jerusalem with great joy; 53 and they were continually in the temple blessing God”
So we have the road meeting appearing again, which constracits the others since the apostles there realize it was jesus, and in the inn, but one says that the apostles go back to jersualem and celebrated in the temple,where Caiphas was and where Pilate was.
Finally, in john we have:
“19 When it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and the doors of the house where the disciples had met were locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, ‘Peace be with you.’ 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples rejoiced when they saw the Lord. 21 Jesus said to them again, ‘Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.’ 22 When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’ 24 But Thomas (who was called the Twin[c]), one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, ‘We have seen the Lord.’ But he said to them, ‘Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands, and put my finger in the mark of the nails and my hand in his side, I will not believe.’ 26 A week later his disciples were again in the house, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were shut, Jesus came and stood among them and said, ‘Peace be with you.’ 27 Then he said to Thomas, ‘Put your finger here and see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it in my side. Do not doubt but believe.’ 28 Thomas answered him, ‘My Lord and my God!’ 29 Jesus said to him, ‘Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have come to believe.’ 30 Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book. 31 But these are written so that you may come to believe[d] that Jesus is the Messiah,[e] the Son of God, and that through believing you may have life in his name.”
Where we have the apostles hiding in fear for their lives, and jesus appears, no road scene, no mountain. Then everyone sees his wounds, and he breathes on them. Thomas wasn’t there and asks for evidence and jesus shows him, rebuking him mildly.
And then we have the nonsense of how this jesus was wandering around doing lots of thing, which the others managed to miss. Jesus shows up again by a sea and these idiot disciples still can’t recognize him.
There you go, all nicely laid out to show how your claims fail miserably.
now, dear, here’s another example. Let’s say there is a brand new portapotty. I enter it first, and someone enters it after me. In no case does any number of “eyewitnesses” change that. I’m still the first.
And some really stupid things from “great” christians. Spurgeon has to be the stupidest of them all.
Damn straight we do.
Yep, the typical cultist that has to, ahem, “wash his hands” of his god’s failure.
Found this and its quite a set of fail and lies. The usual fail with the cosmological argument and the usual lies about atheists, from a seminary student. If you are curious to see how the kalam argument fails, Richard Carrier had a recent debate about it.
“Everyone should desire that sort of theism to be true, even if they do not believe it is true. This dissonance should cause great grieving in the individual, to wish that eternal bliss was possible but to be convinced of eternal death. In Christianity, this often manifests itself in the conversation of hell, where many Christians desire hell to be temporary or only a figure of speech, but believe it is not so. This causes great grief in Christians. In atheism, there should be great grief that theism is not true. Atheism should lead to mourning, especially if they believe no actions matter, since there is no true meaning or ultimate significance in the universe. Atheists should desire theism to be true, and should grieve over their own atheism.”
And my response, which will likely never see the light of day (hey, I was wrong about that):
quite the set of lies. It’s notable that there is no reason to need your god or desire it. I don’t desire your ignorant violent and petty little god to exist at all.
Unsurpisingly, no dissonance, just the false claims of a christian who thinks people should join his religion. No hell either so, you sadistist fantasies will never come true.
I, as an atheist, am very glad the many cults of humans aren’t true, including yours. We have significances and we give it to ourselves and each other. Your lies trying to equate nihilism to atheism are typical christian lies.
How lovely he’s selling bibles and his moron followers will believe his lies when he claims this:
““All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many. It’s my favorite book,” Trump said in the video posted on Truth Social. “I’m proud to endorse and encourage you to get this Bible. We must make America pray again.”
Sure he does. HE can’t even name books from teh bible correctly and has directly said he doesn’t need forgiveness from this imaginary god.
Here’s more:
Billing itself as “the only Bible endorsed by President Trump!” the new venture’s website calls it “Easy-to-read” with “large print” and a “slim design” that “invites you to explore God’s Word anywhere, any time.”
Besides a King James Version translation, it includes copies of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance, as well as a handwritten chorus of the famous Greenwood song.”
Gee, it’s only $59.99, sold to pay off debts from being a rapist and a cheat.
Unsurprisingly, a lot of cultists are having a fit over this. It’s rather pathetic, since they claim that since the 2017 eclipse went over US towns called various bible names, that meant magic happens!
of course, they are still doing that with the one in a couple weeks.
Such a shame it also goes over Mecca, Ohio.
It does take some stupidity to be in this cult. Curious how there will be a total solar eclipse over Mecca in 2027 (and one happened back in 632 CE), so does that mean that Allah is real and he approves of Muslims? Happily, the sadistic fantasies of these idiots will never come true.
This is what happens when you have no evidence for your nonsense and are simply desperate.
As the year progresses, more and more christians are frothing at the mouth about their imaginary friend coming “soon”. Caroline, who has been noted before on this blog is ever so sure:
“The end is near. Jesus is coming back soon; I just know it. If you’ve been putting off faith in God because you figured you had plenty of time to repent, I’d suggest getting on your knees right now.
I’m not by nature an alarmist, and I don’t have any inside information so take my prediction with a grain of salt. It just seems like we’re getting too far off the rails to avoid jumping the tracks completely and colliding with the reality of a God who has had enough.”
Yep, as always, the caveat, but oooh, surely it’ll be “soon”.
The term “soon” doesn’t mean just anything the false prophet wants. Merriam Webster has “before long : without delay soon after sunrise 2: in a speedy way as soon as possible”
So it isn’t months from now, or years from now. At best, soon could be construed to perhaps a month from now. If I’m going on vacation to Hawaii “soon”, that doesn’t mean it’ll be three months from now.
Youtube is infested with these claims of “soon”, though of course, the christians can’t agree if it’s the “rapture” or any of the other variants of their end times nonsense.
And “soon”, they’ll all be changing their claims, insisting that they “misread” the “signs”, that their god conveniently gave humanity another chance, etc. The same set of nonsense they’ve used for the last 2000+ years.
Club Schadenfreude 