Here’s a nice set of lies from a conservative Christian and orange rapist follower, John White. And my response follows. (memes at the bottom)
“Founding Father John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.“
Unsurprisngly, Adams was wrong, and the constitution was made for all Americans. Surprise, fallible humans make false statements. Unlike ignorant Christians like John, even Adams doesn’t think that his religion was the only right one.
“Leading Democrats are immoral and atheistic people. The Constitution is most certainly inadequate to govern Democrats. But this was not always so.”
Unsurprisingly, most leading Democrats, if not all of them, are indeed Christians. John doesn’t like to admit that since it doens’t work with his lies, aka his bearing false witness against others. Thanks, John, for showing how Christians choose to lie and ignore their god. As often happens, each christian is sure that only their version is the right one, and they have a lovely circular firing squad, since sadly not a single one of them can show this or do what their messiah promised to his true followers.
John was born quite a long time ago, and his claim that somehow he was born and grew up in South Texas and wasn’t a Christian is rather hilarious. And when he was growing up, southern Democrats were what republicans are now. It’s nothing surprising that John voted for the addled Ronald Reagan.
I do enjoy how John simply lies about other people, again, ignoring his god. President Obama’s keyword was indeed change and it was advocating for a change from the failed policies of presidents like Reagan, Bush, etc, e.g. the lies of “trickle down economics”, etc. Happily, it worked and Obama saved the US from the recession.
Obama may have been born to communist parents. He was in no way a communist, but that doesn’t fit in with John’s lies either. Unsurprisngly, Obama didn’t embrace “socialism”. He embraced helping people. And if helping people is “socialism”, then I do expect poor ol’ John to cease using public highways, medicare, etc. In his mind, that is socialism too.
Alas, for John’s lies, the Obamas are Christians, just like him. John hates that since he’s a typical Christian who is sure that only his version is the right one. Curious how John, and indeed every self-professed Christian, cannot do what jesus promised to his true followers. John et al are frauds. And not one can claim that the others aren’t Christians, since they can’t even agree on what a Christian is, with dozens, if not far far more, contradictory versions.
What’s amusing is that per ol’ JC’s actions in the bible, Jesus is a *communist*.
Then John goes on with lots of the typical baseless claims of a conservative white Christian, aka a wannabee nazi. Funny how Trump used executive orders, so where is the indignation about that, John?
Curious how US law allows executive orders. “There is no specific provision in the United States Constitution for Executive Orders. However, Section 1 of Article II (the Executive Power) is generally viewed as granting authority for such orders. Section 1 says simply: “The Executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.” Sections 3 and 4 of Article II provide potential limitations on executive action (including Executive Orders) in stating that the President shall “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed” and in providing for impeachment and removal of the President in cases where the President is convicted of “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”” – American Bar Association
So, unlike John’s lies, Obama does respect the rule of law, the Constitution and the foundational principles of the US. There is no one religion in the US, despite what John would like.
Then poor John claims Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. As all things are in the middle east, this one is complicated. Egypt has been ruled by despots, and they keep failing in their gov’t. Senator John McCain was also supporting the muslim brotherhood, over other Egyptian factions, so again, it was both parties and John fails with his lies and attempts to claim that Obama is somehow a Muslim.
John, like all of his orange rapist supporters, is upset that the US has and will continue to change from the 1950s imaginary ideal where Christians and white men ruled. He’s upset that his cult doesn’t have the power it once did.
John also tries to claim that the only reason America succeeded was that it was Christian. It never has been a Christian country. The founders expressedly ignored the ignorance, hate and fear in his cult’s book. De Tocqueville was simply ignorant and wrong.
Christians can’t agree on what being “good” even is, since they can’t agree on what morality their imaginary friend wants.
We have one thing that makes it hard to attack the US, two oceans to cross, nothing more. Curious how Lincoln was indeed right since it was people like John and his orange rapist who have attacked the US gov’t on their own. It wasn’t Obama who tried to stage a coup. It was Obama who allowed a peaceful transfer of power.
Unsurprisngly, John simply lies about what Lincoln actually meant, taking his words out of context. He doesn’t mention these parts where Lincoln decries the power grabs by this cult and their orange rapist:
“ Is it unreasonable then to expect, that some man possessed of the loftiest genius, coupled with ambition sufficient to push it to its utmost stretch, will at some time, spring up among us? And when such a one does, it will require the people to be united with each other, attached to the government and laws, and generally intelligent, to successfully frustrate his designs.
Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down.
Here, then, is a probable case, highly dangerous, and such a one as could not have well existed heretofore.
Another reason which once was; but which, to the same extent, is now no more, has done much in maintaining our institutions thus far. I mean the powerful influence which the interesting scenes of the revolution had upon the passions of the people as distinguished from their judgment. By this influence, the jealousy, envy, and avarice, incident to our nature, and so common to a state of peace, prosperity, and conscious strength, were, for the time, in a great measure smothered and rendered inactive; while the deep-rooted principles of hate, and the powerful motive of revenge, instead of being turned against each other, were directed exclusively against the British nation. And thus, from the force of circumstances, the basest principles of our nature, were either made to lie dormant, or to become the active agents in the advancement of the noblest cause–that of establishing and maintaining civil and religious liberty.
But this state of feeling must fade, is fading, has faded, with the circumstances that produced it.
I do not mean to say, that the scenes of the revolution are now or ever will be entirely forgotten; but that like every thing else, they must fade upon the memory of the world, and grow more and more dim by the lapse of time. In history, we hope, they will be read of, and recounted, so long as the bible shall be read;– but even granting that they will, their influence cannot be what it heretofore has been. Even then, they cannot be so universally known, nor so vividly felt, as they were by the generation just gone to rest. At the close of that struggle, nearly every adult male had been a participator in some of its scenes. The consequence was, that of those scenes, in the form of a husband, a father, a son or brother, a living history was to be found in every family– a history bearing the indubitable testimonies of its own authenticity, in the limbs mangled, in the scars of wounds received, in the midst of the very scenes related–a history, too, that could be read and understood alike by all, the wise and the ignorant, the learned and the unlearned.–But those histories are gone. They can be read no more forever. They were a fortress of strength; but, what invading foeman could never do, the silent artillery of time has done; the leveling of its walls. They are gone.–They were a forest of giant oaks; but the all-resistless hurricane has swept over them, and left only, here and there, a lonely trunk, despoiled of its verdure, shorn of its foliage; unshading and unshaded, to murmur in a few gentle breezes, and to combat with its mutilated limbs, a few more ruder storms, then to sink, and be no more.
They were the pillars of the temple of liberty; and now, that they have crumbled away, that temple must fall, unless we, their descendants, supply their places with other pillars, hewn from the solid quarry of sober reason. Passion has helped us; but can do so no more. It will in future be our enemy. Reason, cold, calculating, unimpassioned reason, must furnish all the materials for our future support and defence.–Let those materials be moulded into general intelligence, sound morality, and in particular, a reverence for the constitution and laws: and, that we improved to the last; that we remained free to the last; that we revered his name to the last; that, during his long sleep, we permitted no hostile foot to pass over or desecrate his resting place; shall be that which to learn the last trump shall awaken our WASHINGTON.
Upon these let the proud fabric of freedom rest, as the rock of its basis; and as truly as has been said of the only greater institution, “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”” – Lincoln’s address to the Young Men’s Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois, on January 27, 1838
Curious how John’s quote from Jefferson also speaks against the lies of John and his fellow wannabee nazis. ““I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves ; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power.”
It’s not democrats who have tried to limit voting by the people.
And curious how the bible mentions not one thing about democracy, but only kings and tyrants. All are to be obeyed without question since this god supposedly put all worldly leaders in their positions.
Of course, John ignores that part of his bible too, since Obama was evidently chosen by God to lead the US since he won the election…twice. Happily, the US isn’t Christian and the nonsense from Matthew 28 shows how Christians fail since they can’t even agree amongst themselves, despite Jesus’ own prayer to himself that Christianity doesn’t split.
John claims that Christians have some duty to educate their fellow citizens. Curious how they can’t even educate each other. We already know about their “kingdom of god” which is imaginary, and the founding principles of the US, which have nothing to do with their cult.
Club Schadenfreude 
I thank you for continuing to read my posts, Val.
One day, I pray, you will be free from spiritual blindness.
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Sure, John. I’m sure you are thankful that I show you as a fraud and a liar, a poor failure who worships quite an anti-christ. Curious how you’ve been praying for a while that I agree with you and you fail miserably. Why is that, John? Jesus says that his true followers will be able to get any prayer answered with what is asked for and answered quickly. You seem to not be able to get this god’s attention.
Is it because this god loves me as I am? That this god doesn’t consider you a true believer? Or is it because your god is imaginary?
Your choice, John. These are the only three you have.
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I am thankful you continue to read my posts,
Val. If you wish to critique more of them, here is a link to all my posts by category.
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poor John, just a cultist who is desperate for attention. Again, John, why is it that your prayers all fail? Per your own bible, you are a complete fraud.
I do enjoy when these cultists intentionally lie. It’s like they don’t believe their god will care or notice them.
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Qui non diligit, non novit Deum: quoniam Deus caritas est. I Io. 4:8 Unus est maximus versus in Bibliis.
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Poor John, all he has are baseless claims in latin: He who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 1 Jo. 4:8 is one of the most important verses in the Bible.
Unsurprisngly, this isn’t true. The christian god can’t even come close to the description of love in 1 Corinthians. The petty need to eternally punish people for not agreeing with it isn’t love. it’s just the actions of an abuser. Happily, John’s sadistic fantasies will never come true.
Humans of any cult and no cult at all can all have love. It takes a christian to be selfish and ignorant enough to claim otherwise.
As usual, John can’t show that my post is wrong.
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Thank you for your comment, Vel.
May your Christmas gift be something you secretly yearn for but outwardly reject.
As long as there is life, there remains hope.
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Yep, still unable to show I’m wrong in my post. Happily, I’ll never accept your religion’s hate and ignorance. I don’t “secretly yearn” for it or anything else, despite your lies and desperate attempts at gaslighting. There is always hope, and no one needs your cult to have that.
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curious how you’ve prayed for me to agree with you before, and it didn’t work, John. Why did you fail john, despite the promises in your bible that a true christian will get any prayer answered with what is asked for and answered quickly. Your own bible says you are a fraud, John. Of course you worship an antichrist so perhaps that’s the problem.
“22 Jesus answered them, ‘Have faith in God. 23 Truly I tell you, if you say to this mountain, “Be taken up and thrown into the sea”, and if you do not doubt in your heart, but believe that what you say will come to pass, it will be done for you. 24 So I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.” – Mark 11
“Go into all the world and proclaim the good news to the whole creation. 16 The one who believes and is baptized will be saved; but the one who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: by using my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes in their hands, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.’” Mark 16
“7 ‘Ask, and it will be given to you; search, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened for you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and everyone who searches finds, and for everyone who knocks, the door will be opened. 9 Is there anyone among you who, if your child asks for bread, will give a stone? 10 Or if the child asks for a fish, will give a snake? 11 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask him!” Matthew 7
“21 Jesus answered them, ‘Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only will you do what has been done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, “Be lifted up and thrown into the sea”, it will be done. 22 Whatever you ask for in prayer with faith, you will receive.’” Matthew 21
“1 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; but if you do not, then believe me because of the works themselves. 12 Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If in my name you ask me for anything, I will do it.” John 14
“ 7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask for whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. “ John 15
“13 Are any among you suffering? They should pray. Are any cheerful? They should sing songs of praise. 14 Are any among you sick? They should call for the elders of the church and have them pray over them, anointing them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 The prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise them up; and anyone who has committed sins will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, so that you may be healed. The prayer of the righteous is powerful and effective. 17 Elijah was a human being like us, and he prayed fervently that it might not rain, and for three years and six months it did not rain on the earth. 18 Then he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain and the earth yielded its harvest.” James 5
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“Spiritual blindness”? John, that is execrably rude of you, calling people “blind” just because they don’t hold the same views as you do.
Please apologize to Vel, and to everyone else you have ever called “spiritually blind.”
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I readily accept your apology.
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Great to see that John either has chosen to lie or can’t read english, despite writing in it. Neither speaks well about his character.
he’s quite a representative of Christianity.
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As we sincerely hope you will be free of religious dumbfuckwittery.
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John White has been found guilty of bearing false witness against me by falsely claiming that I made an apology to him. This is something that I never, ever forgive.
Fuck you, John, and fuck the Holy Spirit too. May your life become so unrelentingly horrible that your faith bleeds away day by day, and for every one person you turn to Jesus may a thousand turn apostate.
(slams gavel on rostrum) Court dismissed.
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I have to wonder what John actually thinks when it comes to his god noticing his lies.
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I suspect he’s only role-playing a True Christian™ and that his real goal is power over other people (q.v. *Project 2025*). He probably doesn’t give a rodent’s patootie about following divine laws, and only pretends to be afraid of hell when in the presence of believers.
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a valid hypothesis.
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The Creator taught me to bless those who curse me. May the Lord reveal Himself to you and heal you of your hatred.
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Curious how your bible has many times where your imaginary friend has no problemm with people cursing others, so I know your claims of such a teaching are at best contradictory, and at worst, completely false. I was a christian, prayed for help when I was losing my faith, and your imagniary friend never showed up. So your prayers fail miserably and have failed 30+ years ago. I’ve had literally hundreds of christians of all versions praying that I agree with them. Despite the promises from jesus to his true followers, not one of your prayers has worked. Is it because your god loves me as I am? That not one of you self-professed christians is considered a believer by this god? or is it because your god is imaginary? your choice.
Why would I want to lose my hatred of wannabee nazis? Sorry, dear, I’ll always call out your lies and ignorance.
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Here is what I see in our relationship, Vel.
1. You hate God and you hate me.
2. God loves you and I also love you, unconditionally.
Thank you for your comments.
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Nice of you to subscribe to my blog, John. I don’t hate imaginary nonsense, and since christians can’t agree on what their god wants when it comes to morals, how to save people, baptism, etc, you all worship different imaginary friends. You all claim to have the only “right” one and yet not one of you can do what jesus promises to his true followers.
I can indeed hate you since you are an ignorant bigot that has nothing else. I have no problem hating wannabee nazis, and punching them, literally or figuratively. My heroes are Captain Kirk and Captain America.
You, and every other theist, can’t show that your imaginary friend merely exists, much less that it loves anyone. The claim of unconditional love is always hilarious coming from a christian, when your god has many, many conditions for its love. I’ve read the bible so I know when christians are lying to me about their nonsense.
hmm,how about we list some of those conditions you either are ignorant about, or lie about?
“3 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
9 Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things? 11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” John 3
“17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5
“18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.” Romans 1
“23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.” John 14
“10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. ” John 15
No christian loves anyone when their religion is built on the hope that anyone who dares disagrees with them deserves eternal torture. You only want obedience. Your god fails at the description of love in 1 Corinthians.
“4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant 5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable and does not count up wrongdoing 6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.”
This god is not patient or kind, murdering Uzzah for keeping its box upright, murdering David’s child for what david did. This god is a petty braggart, arrogant and rude, in the book of job, trying to gaslight Job when Job dares to question this god for allowing his family to be murdered. It only insists on its own way, insisting that if it doesn’t get it, it will murder everyone and eternally torture them. It mind controls people so it can cause harm (Exodus 4, 7, Joshua 11) It is constantly irritable about the smallest infractionsn of its laws, and suposedly keeps books to count up any action it doesn’t like from someone. It has no problem working with satan, in the book of Job, in Luke where there would be no human blood sacrifice by torture if not for satan “entering” Judas, it forces humans to work with satan so its plans work per Revelation 17, and, after this god kills all non-christians, this god has to release satan to corrupt the christians who are left, so it gets one more bloodbath, Revelation 19-20.
it sends lies to people so it has an excuse to harm them, 1 Kings 22. It does not bear all things, believe all things, hopes all things or endures all things. It commits genocide, has no problem with killing people for things they didn’t do and has no problem with slavery.
you are quite a failure, John and your religon, with its many versions, is a fraud.
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