Not So Polite Dinner conversation – the “justice” of the bible

I’ve been chatting with a christian about her god’s justice. She remarked upon Psalm 55 when the bible character David is lamenting the fact he was betrayed by someone. I pointed out his god betrayed him when this god murdered his son for what david did.

Christians really don’t like being reminded that their god is pretty much no different from a mafia don, using harm to control people’s actions.

Unsurprisngly, she offered excuses why it is okay for her god to kill people for things they didn’t do. For this christian, it is justice that a sin was punished. It doesn’t matter that the true victim is a dead child. No protesting from David, to take him rather than the child; this father simply doesn’t question his god.

“Does one not believe in justice? Does one not believe a king deserves punishment for murder as David did for Uriah’s life? Is one able to delineate between a baby being allowed to die and a baby being murdered? Isn’t a baby allowed to have a purpose and didn’t he fulfill his purpose, irregardless of whether his life was full of many breaths or few?

Some come to argue and some come to understand. Those who seek to understand will find understanding.”

Curious how she seems to argue that it was the purpose of a child to be murdered. I suppose that works since the christ child served the same function: a human sacrifice to pay for a “sin”.

I asked her if it she would be okay with being killed for somethingn I did or if she would be okay if her child was killed for something I did. After some prodding, she responded that soldiers die for others.

That’s quite a fail since a soldier either volunteers or accepts being drafted. David’s son did neither.

She then tried that she would die for what I did if that got me to convert to her religion.

That’s her choice. Dying “for” me and being killed for what I have done isn’t the same. She can’t respond to my question as it stands. This is typical of most, if not all, christians.

For all of her attempts, it still comes down to if it is justice to kill someone for the actions of someone else.

Or is it terrorism?

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