So, in the time honored tradition of conspiracy theories, we can just make up things, “just sayin’ “
How’s this? Trump had Charlie Kirk killed since it would distract from the epstein files and give the maga failures something to be aghast at, rather than questioning him about his pedophilia.
Makes “sense”, like all conspiracy theories: a false flag operation, a martyr, and cover for the orange rapist. Quite a shot, the neck at 200 meters.
Highly unlikely, but it’s just for entertainment.
I had my first indignant maga loser whine in the comments. Curious how she wants to clutch her pearls over Kirk being a “family” man, when he didn’t give a damn about the families of others.
Club Schadenfreude 
I’ve blogged about this at my new site. I moved.
https://bubblybackwashinthehouse.blogspot.com/2025/09/quora-is-troll-farm-not-forum.html
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Wrong link, I’m really braindead today!
https://bubblybackwashinthehouse.blogspot.com/2025/09/charlie-kirk-got-shot-today-im-not.html
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nice!
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I wouldn’t usually leave a comment on one of these types of posts, but this time, shame on you. You may have disagreed with Charlie Kirk on many things, but the man was coldly slain for his political views. He was a husband and a father of two young children. To make this some sort of sick conspiracy theory for your entertainment is disgusting. But, if y’all want to make this a joke, go ahead. I sincerely pray you or anyone reading this finds the mercy of Christ and realizes the error of their ways.
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oh look it’s MJ the christian who supports the orange rapist and his friends (one can see her fails here and here). kirk said that having people killed by guns was okay as long as his idiot friend could keep their guns. We don’t know why he was killed since we don’t know who killed him. Let me ask, have you been so offended when conservatives make up conspiracy theories?
He was an idiot who had no problem when the family members of others were murdered by gun owners.
“harlie Kirk (2023): “I think it’s worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.””
“Kirk genuinely made this statement during an April 5, 2023, TPUSA Faith event that took place on the Salt Lake City campus of Awaken Church. The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine hosts an archived YouTube video (unavailable on YouTube’s website) showing the entire event. The quote begins at the 1:16:21 mark. Meanwhile, the PodBean account for the Awaken Church also hosts the audio from the same function, with the quote occurring at the 41:30 mark.” snopes
So your hand wringing that he was a family man is worthless. It’s hilarious how you whine about your christ that evidently didn’t think Kirk or his friends were christians since a true follower of christ would have been able to save his life per the bible. Considering how your christ/god regularly kills people for things they didn’t do and had no control over per your bible, there is no mercy in it.
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Lots of Nazis were family men too. Do you carry the same concern for them? No one with a sensible grasp of reality will. But you might.
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What the Nazis did was actual violence, so shooting them was deserved. Charlie Kirk was shot down not for being violent, but for being willing to have the hard conversations with people. It’s only because the Left has been loudly proclaiming for years that words are violence that this is being deemed acceptable and is being celebrated by so many on that side of the political aisle. That is a dangerous precedent to set.
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MJ, nazis started with talk,just like the jackass Charlie Kirk and just like conservative christians like you. Talk leads to action and it’s thanks to the democratic US laws that keeps those actions in check since we don’t just let violent idiots do what they want.
we literally don’t know why Kirk was murdered. We don’t know who did it or why. (as an addendum: it seems that he was killed for being a fascist per news reports) You want to make him a martyr which he is not. This idiot said that it was worth children dying so he and his fellow idiots could have their guns. Surely he was willing to die for that, right, MJ? Or was he just another jerk who thought it wouldn’t affect him?
Words can be violence. You react as if they are when I point out how vicious and stupid conservatives are. if they aren’t violence, why do you care?
I have yet to see someone “celebrating” a murder. Your usual hyperbole and ignorance fail you again. Strange how you have nothing to say when I ask you how “offended” you were when people called for Obama to be killed, etc.
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And how many cities have been burned down by Republicans? How many actual riots have been started by Republicans? How many Republican speakers and politicians have actually incited violence against those on the other side? I would love to know.
And on that same note, how many cities have been burned down by Democrats? How many riots have been because of Democrats? How many Democrat speakers and politicians have been inciting violence and turning up the heat in the political climate for the past 8 years?
As for “literally not knowing why Kirk was murdered” the FBI found unused bullets in the assassin’s gun that were inscribed with pro-trans and “antifacist” rhetoric. Incidentally, the topic Kirk was speaking on when he was shot was about gun violence from transgender people. To ignore this is an example of willful ignorance.
If you “have yet to see someone ‘celebrating’ a murder,” how about a quick trip to TikTok, Instagram, etc.?
I was in early elementary school when Obama was in office, so I have no memory of this event. Please fill me in. If they were calling for that, that is wrong as well.
Words aren’t violence. If I misgender someone, that isn’t violence. If I say that someone is stupid, that’s not violence. It’s when someone is actually promoting violence and people go commit acts of violence that it’s wrong. Charlie wasn’t doing any of that. Go watch some of his videos. He was incredibly peaceful and respectful to everyone, even if they assaulted him or threatened to.
If you would like, you can read my tribute to Charlie on my blog where I explain a bit more of this in depth. If you want to write a post about it, go ahead. You’re adding to the dialogue, so I respect it even if I don’t agree.
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Yep, here we go again with more lies from MJ. No cities have been burned down,so your lies fail again, MJ. How many riots by conservatives? Oh, how about January 6, dear? Republicans have repeatedly incited violence against others. Let’s see: Charlie Kirk himself claimed it should be permissible to burn rainbow flags and civil rights flags in public. Conservative christians have incited violence againast abortion providers and clinics. Shall I list those murdered by your fellow idiots? the orange rapist has said to “knock the crap out of” anyone he doesn’t like and promised to pay their legal fees. Chaia Raychick and Ryan Nichols have shown photos of people that they claim weren’t respectful enough about Kirk’s death, and say to harm them. Steve Bannon has said we are “at war”in this country.
Curious how you can’t name a single city “burned down” or a single democrat that has incited by democrats. Your own inablity to give names shows that you are just one more liar.
The knowledge about the bullets was just released less than a half hour ago. Yep, Kirk was killed for being a fascist, which he was. That doesn’t mean he should ahve been killed. Curious how I’ve seen nothing about being “protrans” but you may or may not be right. Kirk has reaped what he has sown, with his repeated hate and lies. Yep, he was speaking about such things and lying about them as usual when he was shot. how not surprising.
Again, Kirk wanted free access to guns. He got it and look what happened.
It’ great how yet again, you can’t show any one “celebrating”. Who on tik tok? Who on instagram? You are lying again, dear.
It’s hilarious how you have to plead ignorance about Obama. You know history dear, or are you just lazy and ignorant as usual?
“Ted Nugent Threatens to Kill Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton During Vicious Onstage Rant
“Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun,” the Motor City Madman said onstage
By Elizabeth Good” – Rolling Stone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_incidents_involving_Barack_Obama
https://www.vox.com/2014/9/29/6859903/president-obama-has-faced-three-times-as-many-threats-on-his-life-as
“On September 29, 2019, with his impeachment looming, President Donald Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
retweeted a warning by the Evangelical Pastor Robert Jeffress, “If the Democrats are successful in removing
the President from office it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will
never heal.” Two days later, U.S. Representative Louie Gohmert, a Republican of Texas, warned Democrats
that their “coup” was “pushing America into a civil war.”[1] On far-right websites Trump supporters suggested
drastic and even violent actions against the “enemy” within. Some warned that they may need to exercise their
Second Amendment rights—in other words, take up arms against the traitors. Responding to one of Trump’s
daily Twitter attacks on Adam Schiff, the leading U.S. Representative in the impeachment inquiry, his followers
seconded the President’s rhetorical assaults. One male commenter attacked Schiff as “a co-conspiratory [sic]
in a coup attempt. This is treason.” That same day, a 52-year old man in Tucson, Arizona, left a death threat on
Schiff’s voice mail. “I’m gonna f_ing blow your brains out,” he warned.[2] The would-be attacker told police
officers that “he watches Fox News and likely was upset at something that he saw on the news.” He also stated
that “he strongly dislikes the Democrats, and feels they are to blame for the country’s political issues.”[3] In his
residence, the police found an AR-15 assault rifle, two pistols, and 700 rounds of ammunition.[4]
Although these examples of hate speech and threats of violence seemed shocking, they were merely iterations
of Trumpian rhetoric and signposts for significant increases in right-extreme violence and school bullying
in the United States. Our research found that Trump’s online and off-line hate speech corresponded with his
followers’ aggressive rhetoric, violent threats, and actual violence against Trump’s declared “enemies,” most of
all, minorities, the news media, and oppositional politicians.
Trump’s Divisive and Violent Demagoguery
Donald Trump has been characterized and criticized as populist and autocrat. He certainly is first of all a
demagogue who, like all demagogues, has distinguished between his loyal ingroup on the one hand and
the disloyal outgroup(s) on the other hand. This polarization allows demagogues to stir “hatred of the
outgroup(s)…through scapegoating.”[5] Trump has proven a master in scapegoating others for all kinds of
political, social, and cultural problems with Barack Obama, Democrats, the liberal “deep state”, immigrants and
refugees high on his lists of scapegoats. For example, when asked whether he would take responsibility for his
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administration’s failure to provide an efficient COVID-19 system, he first blamed his predecessor Obama and
a set of circumstances. Then he said emphatically, “I don’t take responsibility at all.”[6]
According to one expert in the field, “demagoguery may be described as the process whereby skilled speakers
and writers seek to influence public opinion by employing the traditional tools of rhetoric with complete
indifference to truth.”[7] This supports Patricia Robert-Miller’s suggestion that “demagoguery is a subset of
propaganda.”[8] While demagogues love mass rallies to unleash their usually divisive rants and relish the waves
of applause of “their” people, they also utilize the most effective communication technologies to carry their
propaganda.
Media scholars distinguish between communication-as-transmission, the technical dimension devoted to
disseminate information farther and faster, and communication-as-ritual, the most persuasive content of
media. According to James Carey, ritual communication refers to the “sacred ceremony that draws persons
together in fellowship and communality.”[9] This assumes that at particular times, especially, during natural or
human-caused disasters, whole communities, whole nations, can be drawn together by ritual communication,
such as invoking shared values, patriotic sentiments, showing of the flag. It is telling that the U.S. flag was by
far the most often (33.2%) posted emoji in President Trump’s tweets and his followers’ responses (29%).[10]
However, as Carey noted, there are also “rituals of excommunication” that pit groups against each other.[11]
Trump has used his spoken and tweeted words ceaselessly to draw his loyal followers together in perceived
communality while excluding outgroups from those representing “we, the people.” During the 2016 presidential
campaign he said, “the only important thing is unification of the people – because the other people don’t mean
anything.”[12] In June 2020, he gave a televised speech in Tulsa, Oklahoma, that was labeled as the opening
salvo of his reelection campaign. The following excerpts from this speech demonstrate how Trump celebrated
his base as good Americans while simultaneously excommunicating evil “others” from the community of real
patriots:
You are warriors, thank you.
We had some very bad people outside; they were doing bad things. They got rid of a lot of bad people
that were there for a long time [they were in fact peaceful “Black Lives Matter” protesters]. Sort of
like me in Washington, draining the swamp. I never knew it was so deep. But it’s happening. It’s
happening, I never knew it was so deep. It’s deep and thick and a lot of bad characters.
I stand before you today to declare the silent majority is stronger than ever before.
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hey want to demolish our heritage.
And when you see those lunatics all over the streets, it’s damn nice to have arms. Damn nice. …The
right to keep and bear arms, we’ll protect your second amendment. Above all, we will never stop
f
ighting for the sacred values that bind us together as one America, we will support, protect, and
defend the Constitution of the United States.
Our incredible success in rebuilding America stands in stark contrast to the extremism and destruction
and violence of the radical left.
We are one movement, one people, one family, and one glorious nation under God… Together we will
make America wealthy again, we will make America strong again, we will make America proud
again, we will make America safe again, and we will make America great again.[13]
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his was textbook demagoguery. By bringing up the right to bear arms Trump issued a thinly veiled call to
arms against the enemy within. As one student of rhetoric noted, “violence manifests itself in pinning labels on
others and marking political, ethnic, racial, confessional, subcultural, sexist words. Violent speech emphasizes
alienating differences between persons, social groups, or communities. Violent speech demarcates.”[14]”
https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/26940036.pdf?ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&initiator=search-results
“Gunman in CDC shooting fired nearly 500 shots after breaking into his father’s gun safe. Here’s what we know” https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/12/us/cdc-atlanta-shooting-shots-windows
“―Assassinate the nigger ape[]‖ 1
:
Obama, Implicit Imagery, and the
Dire Consequences of Racist Jokes
Gregory S. Parks‡ & Danielle C. Heard†
ABSTRACT: In 1994, Congress passed legislation stating that
presidents elected to office after January 1, 1997 would no longer
receive lifetime Secret Service protection. Such legislation was
unremarkable until the first black president—Barack Obama—was
elected. From the outset of his campaign until today, and likely
beyond, President Obama has received unprecedented death threats.
These threats, we argue, are at least in part tied to critics‘ and
commentators‘ use of figurative language and imagery that
characterize Obama as a primate. As a point of departure, we refer
specifically to the racist humor in Sean Delonas‘ controversial New
York Post cartoon of February 2009. Against this backdrop while
looking to history, cultural studies, theories of humor, federal case
‡ Gregory S. Parks, J.D., Ph.D. – Law Clerk, United States Court of Appeals for the
Fourth Circuit.
† Danielle C. Heard, Ph.D. – Andrew W. Mellon Postdoctoral Fellow in the
Humanities, Stanford University, Assistant Professor of English, University of
California at Davis. We thank Kristen Aiken, Kelso Anderson, Stacie Bundzinski,
Nathaniel Canfield, and Sandi Pessin-Boyd for their invaluable research assistance. In
addition we extend gratitude to Dr. Nicole Waligora-Davis for offering fruitful
conversations about racial stereotype and the law. We also appreciate the helpful
insights of Andrea L. Dennis and Jeremi Duru.
1.
Morgan v. McDonough, 540 F.2d 527, 531 (1st Cir. 1976) (stating in a school
desegregation case, that white students harassed black students by chanting ―assassinate the nigger apes‖); see also infra notes 109-13 and accompanying text.
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law, as well as cognitive and social psychology, we explore how the
use of putatively harmless imagery may still be racially laden and
evoke violence against its object. By employing this interdisciplinary
approach to the topic, we bridge the theoretical and the empirical in
order to make a compelling case for the direct link between jokes—
and cultural symbolism more broadly—and assassination threats to
the United States‘ first black president.” ―Assassinate the nigger ape[]‖ 1
Click to access Assassinate-the-nigger-ape.pdf
so here’s your education.
Words with intent are violence, and you only try to lie otherwise since you don’t want to be responsible for what you say. When someone like Kirk claims that jews control the world, that is inciting violence. When a christain says that someone deserves death and worse, that is inciting violence. You are quite an incomeptent liar when you say Kirk was “incredibly peaceful” when I know better.
Let’s look at quotes from him.
On race
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023
Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
Funny how the Nuremberg trials were often to determine if the person deserved the death penalty.
I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023
On immigration
America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
On Islam
America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.
– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
Your lies on your blog don’t interest me, since they are as always lies. I posted this on your blog about Kirk. now, curious to see if you allow it to appear.
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Thanks for the info. I will a response post since I don’t have time to research all this at the present moment. Have a nice day!
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I already did the research. As usual, you have nothing to support your claims, just like you failed with your nonsense about Vance, etc. You are repeatedly shown to be wrong and haven’t the strength of character to admit it.
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MJ, it seems that Kirk was killed by someone who thought he wasn’t pure maga enough. Will you just ignore this or address it?
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Oh, and they caught the guy today after his family turned him in. Sooo…we’ll be finding out pretty quickly exactly why he did it, and it’s 99.99999% likely that it’s what we on the Right have been saying the whole time.
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as I indicated in my own comment,I konw that they caught the person. It seems quite clear that this person shot Kirk because he was a fascist, which he was.
FFascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement that rose to prominence in early-20th-century Europe.[1][2][3] Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[3][4] Opposed to communism, democracy, liberalism, pluralism, and socialism,[5][6] fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.[1][6][7]” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Let’s look at Kirk’s quotes to confirm that:
On race
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023
Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
Funny how the Nuremberg trials were often to determine if the person deserved the death penalty.
I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023
On immigration
America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
On Islam
America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.
– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
again, he did not deserve to be killed for his ideas. He did reap what he sowed with his constant lies and hate.
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There’s a German expression that goes like this: “If a Nazi is sitting at the table, and ten others are sitting there chatting with him, you have eleven Nazis at the table.”
No violence required.
You sound like a Nazi, and “the left,” are your Jews.
Might want to look into that.
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MJ rarely responses to questions. I hope she does here since it would show just what her thoughts are.
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Yes, but he doesn’t have the balls to order it. Now, Stephen Miller on the other hand…
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True. little Goebbels would be a candidate.
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I agree CS. And the instant reactions from the Godfather and his cronies says we are right!
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as much as I was just throwing this out there in mockery of maga conspiracies, it certainly seems like it could be true because of what you note.
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Let me add to this: I don’t think he was targeted! I think someone was hunting in a neighbouring state and his giant head just caught the bullet. 🙂
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what is with these giant headed conservative twits? vapid failures who egos are so inflated that their heads bear the brunt of it.
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