
Soooo, they don’t use wine but use juice since it’s “good enough”. they are afraid of germs more than they trust their god.
really sums up christianity.
addendum: they have whole wheat host
and I had to look: they have gluten free ones too. So aren’t these supposed to transform into meat?
But can Catholics get ones that are pre-transubstantiated? And if so, what happens if they get lost in shipping? 🙂
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As I recall from my Cat’lic days, the priest waves his sceptre over the wine and pronounces it holy or edible or ‘drink it because I say so” and that’s that. I would think even without the priestly wand- waving the alcohol would kill the germs anyway.
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well, since the wine is now blood, tehre’s no alcohol right? 🙂
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Judy, Judy, Judy… there was no scepter or wand involved. When the priest holds the big wafer over his head and the alter server (formerly boy) rings the bells, that is the exact moment it all becomes the real B&B of JC. It’s the bells, lady. No bells, no Jesus. (Bill, also former Catlic, winks and waves.)
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ah, so there are somatic and audio components to the spell. my D&D mage would approve.
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oh dear, I didn’t think of that 🙂 do you know they have whole wheat host?
and I had to look: they have gluten free ones too.
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Who knew that Jesus was drinking Concord Grape juice instead of wine?!
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yep, damn strange since concord grapes are native to the americas.
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I have one, only one response: BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
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Catholics: It’s not simple (is anything ever? and if it was, would they keep it so?). The whole point of the Mass is changing bread (there is a history to read about this, esp. regarding peeps with celiac disease.) Changing bread and wine into the (actual–do not underestimate this if you were not Catholic/Orthodox) body and blood of Christ is called “transubstantiation” — not to be confused with “consubstantiation,” which is the non-Catholic version. Only ordained priests can (not “may”) do this. Even ordained Catholic Deacons must use already transubstantiated JC wafers (and/or) wine when they celebrate Mass. There is no reversal procedure, so once changed to the body and blood it remains so until returned to nature.
You can laugh, but this is core to RC and Orthodox religion and belief. Thing is, I doubt if more than half of the people who practice those religions/denominations know it and many who know don’t really believe it (not quite at the numbers for birth control). But the beat of the Mass and holy communion goes on. When I was Catholic (practicing or not), I always thought the Protestant views and practices were bull shit (even when I practiced within those denominations). I still do. But now I also think the same of what Catholics are supposed to believe.
Germs? Of course, we handled the same bread with our fingers/hands before we ate it. We drank (sipped, but some chugged down more than enough) from the same wine cup. I have no doubt that we shared our germs. Only a fucking protestant would be concerned with germs where the real body and blood of the living god is concerned. (Laugh. That’s a joke. It’s true if you believe in God, but still funny.)
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returned to nature? hmm, might that mean poop? 🙂 now, I would be impressed if anyone could tell which wafers were magically changed and which weren’t in a blind test.
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Yes. Wafers came in big bags or stacked packages. Different sizes. Wine was in big gallon jugs fit for drinking–maybe even kosher wine. And no, you could not tell anything different by looking or tasting.
One time a child spit a consecrated JC wafer out onto the floor. The kid was too young to be receiving communion and the father was, of course, clueless, if he was even RC. I retrieved the wafer and looked up (and asked) what I should do. I dissolved JC in water and then threw him into my back yard.
And, yes, poop returns Jesus to nature. Where do you think the term “holy shit” came from? 🙂
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ah, as a presbyterian we had this weird moist, sweet bread at our church, and grape juice. I liked it so when we had commuion I would claim that I needed to go to the restroom which was right beside the kitchen where the remains of the bread was.
oh dear, dissolved JC. like the wicked witch. heh. and i shuld have see that end comment coming 🙂
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Although it isn’t always easy to determine which religious aspect or ceremony is the most ridiculous, I seem to always go back to “transubstantiation” as the most ridiculous. Also one of the doctrines of Catholicism that, once I was old enough to understand what I was being “told” (not “asked”) to believe, moved me closer to leaving for another flavor of Christianity, which I eventually did. Of course, after I familiarized myself with all of THEIR silly dogmatic nonsense, I finally gave up religion for Lent. It’s worked out well so far, 35 years and still going!
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