yep more whitewashing from a Christian. It’s notable how William Wilberforce had to ignore his religion to be an abolitionist. His bible states: (memes and pictures below)
“18 Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. 19 For it is to your credit if, being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering unjustly. 20 If you endure when you are beaten for doing wrong, where is the credit in that? But if you endure when you do right and suffer for it, you have God’s approval. 21 For to this you have been called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you should follow in his steps.”
and
“39 If any who are dependent on you become so impoverished that they sell themselves to you, you shall not make them serve as slaves. 40 They shall remain with you as hired or bound labourers. They shall serve with you until the year of the jubilee. 41 Then they and their children with them shall be free from your authority; they shall go back to their own family and return to their ancestral property. 42 For they are my servants, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt; they shall not be sold as slaves are sold. 43 You shall not rule over them with harshness, but shall fear your God. 44 As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. 45 You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. 46 You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.”
so freeing slaves isn’t Christian.
Wilberforce also was quite a hypocrite when it came to the working conditions in England itself, standing against labor unions and attempting to silence those who were working for better conditions. He was also anti-woman’s rights and anti-catholic. He changed his mind later about the catholics.
He did support animal welfare which I find laudable. He also was a typical christian thinking only his christianity was the “real” Christianity. They all have their own magic decoder rings that they claim gives them the only right version.
there are other Christian claims about how their god supports slavery:
“We [therefore] weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso – to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit” – “The Bull Romanus Pontifex (Nicholas V) January 8, 1455”
““We weighing all and singular the premises with due meditation, and noting that since we had formerly by other letters of ours granted among other things free and ample faculty to the aforesaid King Alfonso – to invade, search out, capture, vanquish, and subdue all Saracens and pagans whatsoever, and other enemies of Christ wheresoever placed, and the kingdoms, dukedoms, principalities, dominions, possessions, and all movable and immovable goods whatsoever held and possessed by them and to reduce their persons to perpetual slavery, and to apply and appropriate to himself and his successors the kingdoms, dukedoms, counties, principalities, dominions, possessions, and goods, and to convert them to his and their use and profit – by having secured the said faculty, the said King Alfonso, or, by his authority, the aforesaid infante, justly and lawfully has acquired and possessed, and doth possess, these islands, lands, harbors, and seas, and they do of right belong and pertain to the said King Alfonso and his successors”.” Papal Bull Dum Diversas 18 June, 1452
it took until 2023 for the Vatican to repudiate this nonsense and unsurpsingly, their god wasn’t available for comment: “”The Catholic Church therefore repudiates those concepts that fail to recognize the inherent human rights of indigenous peoples, including what has become known as the legal and political ‘doctrine of discovery.’ “”
BTW, this was most of christianity since it was before Luther and his splintering.
I added some more to this to the post that Roger did to try to refute me again.
The Vatican repudiates ‘Doctrine of Discovery,’ which was used to justify colonialism
March 30, 20231:38 PM ET
Doctrine of Discovery Project
I have to wonder how Roger would accept being a slave for years and being treated “harshly”. This is one of the many reasons I find Christianity disgusting, people who aren’t held responsible for their actions and people being forced to share their afterlife with such vermin. No justice or fairness at all.
Club Schadenfreude 