Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – oh look a Muslim creationist lies: Atheism succinctly refuted

a theist, muslim in this case, caught in a lie.
a theist, muslim in this case, caught in a lie.

oh look, a Muslim creationist lies.

It isn’t Ilya Prigogine lying, it is our friends over Blogging Theology.   Now, how did I know to question this false claim?  Well, Dr. Prigogine signed the Humanist Manifesto in 2003.  Rather unlikely that someone like this would be an authority that a theist would run to, right?  It stank of a lie.  

this is what the real quote is:

“The statistical probability that organic structures and the most precisely harmonized reactions that typify living organisms would be generated by accident, is zero.”Ilya Prigogine (Chemist-Physicist) Recipient of two Nobel Prizes in chemistry I. Prigogine, N. Gregair, A. Babbyabtz, Physics Today 25, pp. 23-28

The statement is misquoted and removed from context so as to inaccurately simplify and overstate the authors’ statement.

The exact phrase is (see also above):
The probability that at ordinary temperatures a macroscopic number of molecules is assembled to give rise to the highly ordered structures and to the coordinated functions characterizing living organisms is vanishingly small. The idea of spontaneous genesis of life in its present form is therefore highly improbable, even on the scale of the billions of years during which prebiotic evolution occurred…

Theists are often lazy and almost always making false claims. How pathetic when their holy books tell them not to lie. Poor Paul has failed to listen ““Lying is not permitted except in three cases: a man speaking to his wife to make her happy; lying in times of war; and lying in order to reconcile between people.””  and “

“O you who believe! Fear Allah, and be with those who are true (in words and deeds).”(9:119)”

Tsk, lying just like a regular ol’ conservative Christian.  

One thought on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – oh look a Muslim creationist lies: Atheism succinctly refuted

  1. No religion is able to rely on factual truths. Therefore they must lie. And lie they do.

    Quote mining, cherry picking, babble quotes, any number of other fallacies, and the ole reliable “because we said so!” Is all they have to shore up their pitiful faith. Couple that with some CD and some confirmation bias and we have the not so neat little package called religion. A despicable abomination that causes brain rot worldwide.

    Interestingly enough, I do try to be with those who are true in words and deeds. Not a religiot in the bunch, those that I can tolerate. They all fail upon their own premisses. Hell, why bother doing the right thing when you can always be forgiven? No religious person sticks to everything their scriptures tell them either, they cherry pick there too. Picking and choosing the words they like to live by and ignoring those they dont care for. Religious people always have a built in “get out of guilt free card.” Strangely enough on the other end, guilt is a weapon used to keep those who might waver in belief, towing the line. Guilt free on one hand and guilt threatened on the other.

    The atheist finds responsibility in ones own actions. Honor and integrity are the values we live by. We know there is no absolution in freaking fairy tales. When I do something I regret I have to live with the consequences. I can’t just pray away my actions. No, I have to live with them, and try to prevent them moving forward. Must be nice to be walking around burden free because you can pray away your sins (in regards to this post, the quote mining lie, or just generally speaking,) but if selling out my intellectual integrity is the price for that privilege, I’ll pass every time.

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