Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – hubris only applies to real things

I found this rather silly post here. Theists do get upset when we dare not to believe them. That’s the only being that would get upset with “hubris”.

This person believes…. well, I’ll let them say it:

“

I am a devotee of Death.

Specifically, I am a student of closed occult traditions around San la Muerte. My practices are a blend of folk and high magic, along with a fascinating and complex Gnostic tradition. Part necromancy, part ancestor veneration, part magical sorcery, part mystical devotional practice, with just a dash of good old-fashioned paganism.

If the previous paragraph made absolutely no sense to you, or if it evoked any sort of strong emotions, such as confusion, anger, disgust, outrage, or a strong desire to “bring me to Jesus,” let me take a moment here to address that. First off, not everything is for you, and it’s okay if my blog is one of those things that isn’t. Fare thee well, with my blessings. Second, I’ve spent a considerable amount of time hanging out with Jesus, and there’s a good chance that I know more about the dude and what he actually taught than you do. I think that following in the footsteps of Christ is a great way to live, and I wish that more than a tiny handful of modern Christians would give it a try. Sit with your need to “save” others and ask yourself who is truly being served by that kind of presumption and self-righteous invasiveness.”

this is my answer to it. Unsurprisingly, the ever so convinced theist doesn’t want to see comments showing them wrong. –

Considering how theists aren’t respectful in a “live and let live” kind of way, many of us atheists find we must stand up against theist attempts to force their religions on us.   We don’t have a spirituality at all being pan-atheists and being quite sure that there are no gods.  Love and respect for nature doesn’t require belief in magic. 

All religion is organized and Christianity is a religion, though many Christians would try to falsely claim otherwise, many times in order to try to divorce themselves of the violence and hate caused by their religion.  What religion you are seems to be somethign you’ve made up yourself. You are all “so-called men of god”, and not one of you can show that your version is right and the others wrong. 

Alas, not believing in your religion doen’t mean hubris at all.  It’s just realizing that there is no evidence for your claims.  There’s nothing to have hubris against since your god is imaginary.  Alas, so every many theists don’t find it a problem when they try to take every opportunity to tell us what you believe and try to force your religion onto us. 

No problem in pointing out how a priest’s false claims are false.  Unfortunately, for theists, the truth doesn’t run “every party”; they simply don’t like to have their claims shown as false, so they try to hide behind claims of “respect” and “politeness”.  

A true atheist can be an anti-theist, and considering how much harm theist claims have done in the world, there is no problem with that.  Alas, it is theists who tell us about how stupid we are, and that we deserve eternal torture if we don’t agree with you.  Happily, those sadistic fantasies will never come true.  Most of us atheists are former theists, including being Christians, like me.  I know quite a lot about the religion and its many many versions, have read the bible in its entirety and know about other religions too, many things that current Christians don’t do.  There is no reason to keep “searching” when there is no evidence for the claims of theism.  It’s rather like saying I should still seek fairies when I’m quite sure that they don’t exist, just to put off the inevitable conclusion that you are wrong. 

Theists claim that their god exists but cannot show evidence for it, and alas, the “most simplest and most basic proofs” fail too, sicen no religion can show that their claims are true.  You seem to be trying a common theist bit of nonsense, that since there are many humans who have some god, then your god must exist.  No evidence for that at all.

Death has nothing to do with your gods.  Death is the end of biological function, no god needed.  You seem to need to appeal to death to gin up fear so people will join your cult.  Your god is imaginary, and yep, I’m immune to your imaginary friend. 

Yep, the sun exists, still no evidence for your silly gods.  Yep, worshippers of a ball of fusing hydrogen were indeed ignorant, as you are.  It doesn’t care about humans; its radiation causing harm, no matter what supplications are made to it. 

Yep, the moon, love oceans etc exist.  No gods needed.  Nope, they aren’t powerful beyond measure. 

Phoenix, you are quite a silly person with your baseless claims.  Ignorant humans didn’t know any magic truths as you try to make up.  Happily, lightning rods do show that these people weren’t aware of reality. 

You have no truth, and you make up your nonsense just like any other theist.  Unsurprsingly, each theist makes the claim that they and only they have the “right” one, with no evidence at all.  At best, you claim each other has only “part” of this truth. 

You all claim to be the voice of some god and yep, you are all tyrants, wanting people to agree with you.  I can indeed reject your god and your claims that somehow something supernatural created anything at all.  There is no evidence for this. 

Happily, the fantasies of hell and heaven are just that, fantasies.  Your baseless nonsense is nothing new, a false promise that most if not all cults make to try to get members. 

There is no scientific support for your false claims.  I am not only allowed to think that, I know that.  You don’t’ get to have your own facts.  You will be shown wrong.  You simply are another human who needs to pretend that they and they alone have some special knowledge. 

I have no respect or compassion for someone who tries to spread harmful nonsense.  I don’t need to consider a liar my equal at all.