Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – Dr. Chuck and his claims

I’ve had a Dr. Chuck like my post about how a christian failed to show his claims as true. This is curious since Dr. Chuck is an evangelical Christian who is quite sure his religion is true.

Here’s a response to one of his posts since he doesn’t allow comments on them. Nothing new here, unless you are curious about perihelion and aphelion.

“The Lord wants us to use our minds to honor and glorify Him. Being able to think logically about our faith is one of the most fundamental aspects of Christianity.”

No evidence of this happening.

“The Circle of Science”

– Cosmology: The Big Bang theory shows that the earth has grown from a small point, and is continually expanding. This fits into the story of creation. God created the earth from a fixed point. “

The bible says nothing about a “fixed point”. That is made up to try to make the myth resemble reality.

“– The earth is perfectly adequate for human life: if the sun had been just a little bit further away, or our bodies lacked one organ, we would die. Is this kind of precision the work of chance? Absolutely not.”

This shows the typical ignorance by a christain about the solar system. The orbit of the earth isn’t circular, so this “just a little bit” fails since the earth’s orbit varies by 3,103,330 miles from perhelion to aphelion (2023). The aphelion and perihelion change from year year:

2023January 4, 2023 11:17 am91,403,034 miJuly 6, 2023 4:06 pm94,506,364 mi
2024January 2, 2024 7:38 pm91,404,095 miJuly 5, 2024 1:06 am94,510,539 mi
2025January 4, 2025 8:28 am91,405,993 miJuly 3, 2025 3:54 pm94,502,939 mi
2026January 3, 2026 12:15 pm91,403,637 miJuly 6, 2026 1:30 pm94,502,962 mi
2027January 2, 2027 9:32 pm91,406,556 miJuly 5, 2027 1:05 am94,510,857 mi

“The Circle of History:”

He doesn’t have anything here, but the image on his blog claims that there are “Reliable eyewitness accounts of Jesus’ resurrection. Jesus claimed to be god”.

Curious how there are no eyewitness accounts of jesus’ resurrection, reliable or not, and lots of lunatics claim to be god. No evidence of either claim being true. Curious how those supposed 500 “witnesses” that Paul claims vanish, like they never existed.

“The Circle of Human Nature/ Moral Feelings: 

Scientists and thinkers have tried to explain away the human conscience. They rationalize our feelings of empathy, guilt, and anger with concepts such as the herd mentality. We care for others only because we’re all the same breed. This doesn’t explain enough. But a personal God does. “

Scientits and thinkers have tried to explain the human conscience. They haven’t tried to explain it “away”. And funny how if there is no brain, there is no conscience or person. I’ve not seen “herd mentality” used at all, but self-interest, empathy all explain “enough”, no god or Dr. Chuck needed.

As for morals, many christians run to this argument from morality for their god. it fails since 1. Chrsitians fail to agree on what morals this god wants, and cannot show that any of their list of morals is god approved, and 2. Christianity morality is subject to who or what someone is, since they excuse their god when it does things that they would be horrified if a human did the same. Their morals are little more than might equals right.

No evidence for a personal god at all, nor for any of the many versions of the christian god that christians have invented.

3 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – Dr. Chuck and his claims

  1. The science we have now or even future generations will not be able to fully explain the universe as we and them shall never be able to get out of the universe to view it from outside so to speak.

    The confidence with which people say life would not be if the sun was some distance amazes me. What is life? Do they know all the conditions requisite for life to be?

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  2. Might equals right, sums up religion fairly well. It’s an authoritarian system based on complete fantasy about how the universe, the world, and us, came to be.

    They might have had some acceptable answers for humanity in the 1800’s. But since then we humans have learned quite a bit on our own. We have better answers because, science. Earthquakes, tondados, hurricanes, lightning, rainbows, medicine, hell just about everything, we have a better understanding of now, rather than goddidtit.

    Gods were pathetic attemps by a superstitious ape to explain away the boogeyman under the bed. Now we have DNA to catch the boogeyman. We have come so far. Only to have probably set things in motion for our own extinction… Some irony there.

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  3. Okay. I personally like “the puddle analogy.” It is not perfect. But I like it for this argument.

    The solar system was set first. Then the evolution of life began. It did not happen on Mars or Venus (books about men and women to the contrary). 99.9% of all species are extinct now. It is indeed an awesome wonder that anyone or anything lives. But that is not proof of anything (like a god) but existence.

    If things were changed a little during the process of evolution on earth, it may have been different out of necessity. But that does not mean it would not have occurred at all. If the environment will not sustain life (as we know it), then we are back to the few other planets in our solar system. So what?

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