What the Boss Likes – grieve and heal and then move ahead

not so polite dinner conversation, What the Boss likes 4 Minutes

It’s no shame to want to run, to want to hide.  I do and it’s a fight inside myself to shut down and say screw the human race or to follow those I learned morality from, characters like Captain Kirk and Captain America, Captain Sheridan (lots of captains, eh?) and fight on. 

But we can’t quit.  We can take time to heal and to grieve but we can’t let these mean, selfish, gullible people win. 

The Daily Stoic has a very good essay on why not to shut down.  Here’s an excerpt:

“Don’t Follow His Example (For Once)

Imagine believing in some ideal your whole life, that your family has been committed to a vision of your country for generations. You know your country isn’t perfect. You know not everyone agrees with you, but you are confident that when it comes down to it, things will turn out alright. Now imagine waking up one morning and finding the person you find most morally reprehensible, who stands for everything you stand against, is now in charge.

While for some this might all sound rather contemporary, this is the story of Cato the Younger and takes place in Rome in 46 BC. Cato was the Stoic all the other Stoics admired. With an almost radical commitment to virtue and principle, he defended Rome’s old ways—the mos maiorum—and led the opposition against Julius Caesar, who was determined to seize ultimate power at all costs. And when Caesar and his followers defeated Cato’s side in Rome’s Civil War, bringing an end to the Republic and the start of Caesar’s dictatorship, how did Cato respond?

He called for his sword and checked its razor edge with his finger. “Now I am my own master,” he said, and then killed himself in protest, preferring to die than submit to what he considered tyranny.

Cato’s example—in life and in death—has long stood as a powerful one. It inspired not just the other ancient Stoics but also the Founders of America. He was pure. He was determined. He was powerful. It’s also understandable—he was devastated. All felt lost. He was in danger. He did not want to become a victim of Caesar.

Yet our profile of Cato in Lives of the Stoics, although largely sympathetic to Cato, presents an alternative view of his final protest, by way of Napoleon of all people. Napoleon, who once displayed a bust of Cato in his “hall of heroes,” notes,

“The conduct of Cato was applauded by his contemporaries and has been admired by history; but who benefited from his death? Caesar. Who was pleased by it? Caesar. And to who was was it a tragedy? To Rome and to his party … No, he killed himself out of spleen and despair. His death was the weakness of a great soul, the error of a stoic, a blot on his life.”

Now, Napoleon is not a perfect character himself—much closer to Caesar than anything—but he’s got a point here. What if Cato had stuck around? What did his suicide—literal or metaphorical—accomplish? Nothing! It was the end, for him anyway….”

In case you don’t know who Captain Sheridan is, he’s from the series Babylon 5, which ends up being about who stands with the light against the darkness.

“Tell the other Rangers, the ambassadors, everyone in this “army of light” that Babylon 5 stands with you. Tell them- Tell them that from this place, we will deliver notice to the parliaments of conquerors that a line has been drawn against the darkness, and we will hold that line, no matter the cost.”

And can’t forget G’Kar: “”If I take a lamp and shine it toward the wall, a bright spot will appear on the wall. The lamp is our search for truth… for understanding. Too often, we assume that the light on the wall is God, but the light is not the goal of the search, it is the result of the search. The more intense the search, the brighter the light on the wall. The brighter the light on the wall, the greater the sense of revelation upon seeing it. Similarly, someone who does not search – who does not bring a lantern – sees nothing. What we perceive as God is the by-product of our search for God. It may simply be an appreciation of the light… pure and unblemished… not understanding that it comes from us.

Sometimes we stand in front of the light and assume that we are the center of the universe – God looks astonishingly like we do – or we turn to look at our shadow and assume that all is darkness. If we allow ourselves to get in the way, we defeat the purpose, which is to use the light of our search to illuminate the wall in all its beauty and in all its flaws; and in so doing, better understand the world around us.”

“”There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender.””

“Doesn’t matter what the press says. Doesn’t matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn’t matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — “No, you move.” “ Captain America

“Mirror Spock: “One man cannot summon the future.” Kirk: “But one man can change the present.”.

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  1. I can’t listen to any news for the next four years. All I need to know is when are the jackboots coming up my driveway… If the revolution needs me, call.

    I can’t even imagine the degree to which we are fucked as a country, and perhaps humanity as we know it.

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    1. I don’t remember any jackboots from the first four years, so I wonder which policies affected you so directly or deeply that you’d be worried now? I recall this type of catastrophe the first time and nothing happened. Relax. Don’t believe anything you hear. None of its true

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      1. jim, we know it is true and this time this moron will have even more eager assistants. I don’t have to have policies hurting me to worry about how they will harm others. To claim that since it wasn’t *that* bad before it won’t be horrible now is quite a fallacy.

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      2. Well, you believed the doom and gloom from the first presidency and nothing happened. So who’s being facetious?
        The mainstream media, the global organizations, repeating the same narrative being fat, checked by organizations that are a part of the same media, and you think they’re telling you the truth.? Everything is designed to bring you back to a narrative that makes no sense that is fact checked by its own , and keeps people divided. Meanwhile, Americans are living quite well. By the way, I made the same comments when Joe Biden was elected. The right believes an untrue narrative, same as the left, same viral strands creating two separate symptoms.

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      3. funny how the doom and gloom *did* happen. Remember covid and the orange rapist lying about it and claiming that bleach would work? Remember the attacks on Muslims, and people who looked like Muslims to these bigots thanks to this idiot? Remember the separated families?

        I’m quite happy to remain “divided” from wannabee nazis.

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      4. You might want to fact check that. The disinfectant comment was a media tool propaganda. Even snopes said “However, the transcript of the briefing clarifies that while Trump’s remarks were erroneous and confusing, he did not at any point instruct people to inject disinfectants or any other substances (including bleach) into their bodies.”
        Another thing—Muslims switched to trump this election. If what you say is true, that makes no sense.
        Step back from the frenzy

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      5. Sad you are such an ignorant conspiracy theorist. This is what Snopes actually says:

        This is the quote from Trump:

        “THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

        ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

        THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.”

        So we have this idiot claiming that bleach will work if you inject it, and that UV light will work if you put it inside the human body.

        Then the orange rapist’s handler says this: “Four minutes later, a journalist responded to Trump’s disinfectant comments by asking whether there was any scenario in which cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into people.

        Bryan replied first, saying: “No, I’m here to talk about the findings that we had in the study. We won’t do that within that lab, our lab.”

        and trump still goes on about this nonsense about “sterilizing” and “cleaning” an area, aka the human body.

        Trump then clarified his own remarks, adding: “It wouldn’t be through injection. We’re talking about through almost a cleaning, sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work. But it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.””

        and then, we have this lie from the orange rapist “A day later, Trump told reporters in the Oval Office his question about injecting disinfectants was a “sarcastic question” to “see what would happen”:

        I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters like you just to see what would happen … I was asking a sarcastic, and a very sarcastic, question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside. But it does kill it, and it would kill it on the hands and that would make things much better. That was done in the form of a sarcastic question to the reporters.”

        walking back what he did think would work. for what Snopes claimed: “What’s True
        During an April 2020 media briefing, Trump did ask members of the government’s coronavirus task force to look into whether disinfectants could be injected inside people to treat COVID-19. But when a reporter asked in a follow-up question whether cleaning products like bleach and isopropyl alcohol would be injected into a person, the then-president said those products would be used for sterilizing an area, not for injections.

        What’s False
        However, at no point did Trump explicitly tell people they could or should inject bleach into their bodies.”

        Nice bit of technicality.

        That people are stupid and vote against their own interests is nothing new, Jim. Yes, it make no sense at all, unless you see it through religion, and curious how conservative christians and muslims want the exact same thing. Idiots always think that what they want for others won’t be applied to them.

        Hispanics also voted for the orange rapist, showing the typical actions of immigrants who don’t want the next batch of immigrants to come in. We got to see that repeatedly with the Italians, the Irish, etc all through American history.

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      6. It’s obvious anything Trump will be interpreted in the most horrible light possible. Your projecting even the most liberal fact checker, Snopes says otherwise.

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      9. and again you fail.

        “At a news conference after Iran fired a barrage of missiles at Israel, the current Republican presidential nominee was asked by a reporter whether he regrets not being tougher on Tehran after Iran struck an air base in Iraq in 2020 and injured about 100 troops.
        “What does ‘injured’ mean? Injured means because they had a headache because the bombs never hit the fort,” Trump replied.

        “None of those very accurate missiles hit our fort,” Trump added. “They all hit outside. And there was nobody hurt, other than the sound was loud. And some people said that hurt, and I accept that.”” – “Trump Reignites Controversy over Calling Troops’ Brain Injuries ‘Headaches'” military.com

        “At first, President Donald Trump stated inaccurately that no U.S. troops were injured in the Iranian missile attack against them in Iraq. Then he prematurely minimized those injuries as doctors tried to determine how severe they were.

        On Friday, the Pentagon said that in fact, 34 troops suffered traumatic brain injuries in the attack and half remain under medical observation in Germany or back in the U.S. more than two weeks later.

        TRUMP, Jan. 8: “Good morning. I’m pleased to inform you: The American people should be extremely grateful and happy no Americans were harmed in last night’s attack by the Iranian regime. We suffered no casualties, all of our soldiers are safe, and only minimal damage was sustained at our military bases.” — statement delivered the morning after the Iranian missile attack on bases hosting U.S. troops in Iraq.”
        TRUMP, Jan. 9, as if in dialogue with an aide after the Iranian attack: “I said how many? How many died? How many were wounded? Sir, none. None. Pretty good warning system. None. How many were hurt? None, sir. So we didn’t do anything.” — Toledo, Ohio, rally, a day before the first wounded troops were evacuated from Iraq.

        TRUMP, Wednesday: “I heard they had headaches and a couple of other things … and I can report it is not very serious. … No, I don’t consider them very serious injuries relative to other injuries that I’ve seen. … No, I do not consider that to be bad injuries, no.” — press conference in Davos, Switzerland.

        THE FACTS: Trump had no basis for stating this week — after medical evacuations of wounded troops — that the injuries that surfaced were in the realm of mere headaches. And in the immediate aftermath of the attack, his categorical statement that no one was hurt soon proved wrong.

        It took several days for the Pentagon to understand it had casualties requiring further treatment. Meantime Trump declared all troops safe and unhurt as recently as the night before the first wounded soldiers were evacuated from Iraq for more treatment and screening than could be done there.

        – “AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s false assurance about troops in Iraq” Associated Press

        “When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery, near Paris, in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

        n addition, The Associated Press has confirmed many of the comments Trump was reported by The Atlantic to have made disparaging fallen or captured U.S. service members, such as his description of the American dead in a military graveyard as “losers.”

        As for McCain, Trump told a conservative forum in Iowa in 2015 that his view of McCain changed when McCain lost the 2008 presidential election to Obama. “He lost, so I never liked him as much after that, ‘cause I don’t like losers,” he said. Trump went on to dismiss McCain’s war service: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured.”

        Trump in 2015 also tweeted a news article on Twitter calling McCain a “loser.”

        Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.”

        “Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump’s untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.

        In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

        “A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them,'” Kelly said of Trump. “A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family — for all Gold Star families — on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.””

        https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-trump-call-mccain-a-loser/

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      10. TLDR. You spend a lot of time validating your superiority complex. And yet Kamala I’m and the corrupt Biden machine are beyond reproach. Your a comedian too

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      11. It’s great when Jim is too much of a coward to read the information that shows him to be an incomptent liar.

        And still no evidence for your claims, Jim. Nice of you to try to lie about what I’ve said. Do show where I’ve said Harris, Biden, et al are “beyond reproach”. Surely you can, right?

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      14. I’m not slogging through old comments. Be fair and throw out one criticism of your beloved loser. You’ve drank the koolaid so you can’t

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      19. Is have to dig through comments on other blogs. No thanks. You think she’s the cackling idiot that’s showed on all the reels? I don’t, and neither do I believe all the manipulated sound bites on trump. The democrats loved him before he ran for office. He doesn’t play the game so now he can’t even breathe without your media pals twisting it up. If you were as smart as you think you’d see that

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      20. as I figured, more excuses for why you can’t show what you claim. Unsurprisngly, no evidence for any manipulated sound bites from trump, and no democrats didn’t love him before he ran for office. He was considered a failed businessman who fronted a TV show. Curious how you can’t show a single instance of “twisting it up”.

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      21. It turns out that during Covid, the more highly educated one was the more susceptible they were to the mRNA technology bullshit. It is a closed system where those involved with academia and the mind are completely subject to authority and obedient and complacent to it.
        Where the lay person could see the whole thing was a scam.

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      23. You need evidence when you already blatantly misinterpret anything you don’t agree with.? It was everywhere in plain site yet you can’t see it. Academics and scientists subject themselves more to authority than any religious person. It’s a closed system. Just look at the medical profession—the top tier and how they are now like robots passing out scripts that heal no one. No cures in 60 years yet smug and self righteous dispensers of the authorities “peer review” which isn’t scientific at all, but a popularity contest.

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      24. And yet no evidence for any of your conspiracy nonsense, Jim. Unsurprisingly, we have had many advances in medicine, despite your attempts to lie that we haven’t. We now have the human papilloma vaccine to guard against cervical cancer, the shingles vaccine, the small cell lung cancer vaccine, vaccines for dengue, malaria ebola, etc.

        We’ve mapped the human genome to help address genetic diseases. We have been able to treat AIDS/HIV. We can transplant organs. We have gamma knives to destroy cancer. we have genetic editing to end hemophilia, etc. We have been able to enable deaf people to hear, blind people to see and paralyzed people to be able to manipulate things with their minds.

        just like anyone who has no evidence for their lies, you have to claim that “it’s everywhere yet you can’t see it”. Nice that you are using the same failed lies that theists do, Jim.

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      28. Show this bias you claim, Jim. I am enjoying seeing you use the exact same lies as any theist does. You can’t show that I’m wrong and to try to cover your incompetence, you tell me to “look in the mirror”, as if somehow that will magically make me agree with your lies.

        Unsurprisingly, I was able to show how Trump failed miserably and there was indeed “doom”. Hundreds of thousands died thanks to his incompetence.

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      30. Unsurprisngly, no Trump didn’t have as “successful a presidency” as anyone. Curious how hundreds of thousands died on his watch, the supply chain ground to a halt. He claimed to have a plan for immigration. He had nothing. he claimed to have a plan for infrastructure, he had nothing. he claimed to get rid of the affordable care act, he failed.

        this is why having for 2 years both the house *and* senate.

        and now you have nothing but calling me names.

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      32. You must live in the city. Nobody can show your wrong without you spewing pages of propaganda. The majority has spoken. Get over it. You really think you’ve figured it all out but simply have believe the manipulation of the media. Left or right, it doesn’t care. If you were smart you’d see that

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      33. ROFL So, dear, what does living in the city have to do with anything? All sorts of people live in the city. Perhaps you are trying to claims something about peopel who live in cities, dear and are too much of a coward to say it?

        It’s great when liars like you say “get over it” when the orange rapist didn’t get over it and kept lying about winning the election.

        Still no evidence for your conspiracy theories, dear.

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      34. People in cities have a less diverse biome.
        “Urbanization degrades and fragments natural habitat, replacing them with buildings and impermeable materials like asphalt and concrete. This can threaten biodiversity”. Half your biome is not human in origin, the other half is contaminated due to your living conditions. You have nothing to fight the viruses affecting your natural mind. Hence, here you are

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      35. ROFL. Nice try to save yourself, Jim. Nice cut and paste, but do show how having a suposed “less diverse biome” fits in with your need to try to insult me.

        I live in a very nice city, plenty of natural spaces, and its no more contaminated than living on a farm in a rural area. I’ve lived on both.

        And then you make up “viruses” affecting my “natural mind” which you also can’t show exist. You really are flailing. It’s wonderful to watch.

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      38. I don’t provide you evidence. Nothing I have ever said or demonstrated was good enough for you. You have your own way of thinking, as myopic as that is and I think differently than you. You’re a very bullheaded unlikable person. That is one thing that has not changed over the years.

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      39. yep, still more whining from Jim. You have been found a liar, Jim. You make claims you can’t support. Like any failed cultist, you whine complaining how dare I ask you for evidence. That’s the typical attempt by a fraud to insist he’s the victim. You lie that I have a “myopic” way of thinking and, as usual, can’t suport that false claim either.

        Happily, your baseless opinion fails again, Jim. That a fraud like you finds me supposedly “bullheaded” and “unlikeable” is a badge of honor since you only find me that way when your claims fail.

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      41. It is amusing you trust the experts that have the world exactly where it is—complete disarray and you still quote that shit. Submitting to authority is all over your pages

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      42. and here we have Jim still having no evidence for his delusions. Unsurprisingly, the world isn’t in “complete disarray”. It’s always fun when someone like you who wants authority gets upset if your baseless garbage isn’t obeyed.

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      47. Just look at you—stuck so far up your own ass you can’t see what a clown you’ve become. None of them are worth defending, but none of them are as the public image would like you to believe

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      51. You started it with your condescending “poor jim” comments. If you can’t take the backlash quit being so arrogant. Speaking directly to someone using 3rd person tense is rude and smug and illustrates your lack of intelligence.

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      52. There were good people in the way before. He had no experience at the levers of power before. We had a D Congress before, to nix his stupid legislative shit. This time that fucker has all 3 seats of power and no one with the integrity/guts to stand up to him.

        He loves despots, dictators, and auotcrats. He admires them. Power is his addiction, and racism/lies/hate his calling card. If you think this piece of goddamn shit will leave the WH when his 4 years are up, you better stop smoking what you’re smoking Jim. He wants to be king, and he has all 3 seats of power. He has SCOTUS in his back pocket. He has no one who would attempt to stop him, and a passel of white power nazis as advisors to encourage him on. I sincerely doubt this country will ever see another free and fair election again. If there is an election, it will be a Putin election, with zero chance of anyone else taking power.

        The orange jack ass called for mass deportations if he got back in office. Do you think he was making that up? Womens rights, human rights, civil rights, will all be under assault. What do you think it will take to do mass roundups of immigrants in this country? Yes, jackboots are on the way bub.

        They (R’s,) will kill the ACA. They will come for SS as well, it’s a known fact R’s have had a hard on to do away with it for decades, and this is their oportunity to do so unimpeded. They have already stripped women of the right to choose, in many states, it will be a national ban now. With no provisions for rape/incest. There’s no telling what the fuck else they will do.

        Ukraine, will fall, unless the EU picks up its game.

        They’ve threatened to do away with the Dept. of Education. Why would they do that? So they can regulate what gets taught. Why? Because the sort of morons who voted him in, are much easier to fool/control than anyone with an IQ biggger than a 50 cent piece.

        Rump will most likely ruin the fantastic economy we have now. Yes, it’s a very strong economy, but no one on the right would say it in public. His tarriff policies are a citizen tax, and he plans to broaden them. And the richest of the rich will get more tax breaks, and a huge lifting of regulations. The ripple effect from lifting regulations will be an environmental disaster. The regulations we have now are hardly enforced, and politicians won’t see that they are enforced, because politicians are in the pockets of the corporations already. It will only get worse.

        Whatever trend I may have had, to look for the best in my neighbors has been severely damaged, granted it wasn’t doing that well anyway… How can I walk the streets without thinking what kind of motherfucking idiots I am looking at? Who in their right mind would think a racist, hatemongering, pussy grabbing, lying ass, 34 count felon, sexual predator, with repeated business failures, fraudulent charities, fraudelent schools, with a fraudulent tough, smart guy, persona, is fit to be POTUS?

        We had 4 years of this insane asylum idiot. We had a viable candidate. We had hope. We had a democacy. We will not have one much longer. You saw what hapened when he lost the last time right? This time his 2 term limit will be up. Unless, they change that little speed bump through legislation. Or, just rip up the constitution on national TV, and take over. No one will stop them.

        I hope to fuck I’m wrong, but time will tell.

        When the revolution needs me, call.

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      53. You have a strange pair of glasses to see this way. Everything trump is accused of is exactly what the democrats are actually doing. People are seeing through this and because of the insistent intrusion into personal life we get this.
        It is difficult to understand the carte blanc belief in this narrative but there it is. Literally every talking point is MSM nonsense and then believed (by both sides) yet none of what you say matches reality.

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      55. No not at all. None of it. You don’t quite understand —we are arguing about which wing of propaganda is best. All the media is owned and the narrative is controlled. Fact checkers are the arbiters of disinformation that are designed to bring us back to the approved narratives. Divided people are easy to control and politics is not about truth—it is about power. Full stop

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      56. I do not disagree with you to some extent. There are two opposing interests. Both influenced by politics. But how many MSM outlets are being sued for being lying liars? Faux News had to pay out nearly a billion, for their part in the election scandal leading to a goddamn insurrection. More lawsuits pending, last I heard.

        While MSM isn’t perfect, it’s certainly better than the right wing propaganda machine. The right wing brazenly lies to it’s followers, which is bad enough, but they also do not speak the uncomfortable truths they do not want their base to know. Which is as bad, or even worse IMO.

        Right wing propaganda also tends to speak in obvious fallacies, which make half truths and lies more palatable to people too ignorant to understand they are being manipulated.

        Rarely, do I hear fallacy speak with MSM. When I do it’s more often in an interview with a right wing dipshit.

        Neither side of the propaganda machine is ideal. But I’ll settle for the side that does not openly, and brazenly lie their asses off, and conveniently ignore facts that might contradict what they are trying to sell. Which apparently is their business model.

        Does MSM have a political slant? Of course they do, but there is a clear and obvious difference between the two.

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      57. Faux news isn’t following the approved narrative, and like Trump, isn’t playing the approved game, but playing a different game that is just as divisive (obviously) as the other. I’m not sure the regular left leaning. person can comprehend how divisive the left is as well, with DEI, race, education (which has been owned by liberals since the formation of the DOE) where education has become a tool, not an education at all.
        We’re just regular people , yet when my daughter got out of university she was an ordained woke social Justice warrior employing the fascism of the left, and now to her I am a Cis white male at the root of all the worlds problems. I am held accountable for my being of the white patriarchy, who am in fact subject to the same handful of hyper successful despots that control the world and its economy. My struggles in life to half ass succeed are now because of my privilege! No one has ever given me a thing and I’ve built everything I have (which isn’t much) so I can live out my life working til I’m dead because those in control (the experts) keep fucking with us and our economy. You say the economy is good? Horseshit. I can barely afford groceries and my commute, let alone anything going wrong like an emergency. This is engineered, academic, expert blunder from the top people you seem to align with and is in fact, a closed religious system with its own peer review from institutions that are completely corrupt from science to religion.
        And by the way, I don’t believe Kamala was the blundering idiot that the right presented either. Because the left and right are not who’s in charge of this idiocy.

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      58. Jim, education has its downfalls lol. All woke means, is being somewhat educated, and being aware of what the hell is going on. How far one takes that is up to them I suppose.

        I hope you can remain on good terms with your daughter.

        So, you haven’t noticed the price of gas going down? Even groceries are better where I live. Ain’t paying 10 bucks for a 10lb bag of potatoes anymore. Eggs are high, but that’s bird flu, not economic policy. And… you can’t necessarily blame the entirety of high prices on policy either, because most of what we see is price gouging by corporations. Not the actual trends in supply/demand. Corporate is what we should be angry with, and anyone who lets corporate run unchecked. Who in the WH do you think might encourage maximum profit over people? Nevermind all the other bullshit that goes with this orange fucker.

        Like you, I had to scratch and dig for everything I’ve managed to accomplish. It takes dedication, sacrifice, a bit of ambition, and hard work. Nobody handed me a damn thing either. I’ve no mansion on the hill, but my box is paid for. My vehicles owned free and clear. Except our car, still paying on it. But I can see it’s 3x harder to get here now than it was when we were doing it. I’m not even sure how I got this far, but you look back and it got done.

        Greed is our enemy. No matter which side of the fence we sit. It all boils down to $$$, and how much of it they can squeeze out of us.

        “Because the left and right are not who’s in charge of this idiocy.” That’s right. Wheresoever the corporate money flows, is how policy goes, when you are beholden to corporate.

        A president is a figurehead. They make change in policy. Policy can affect for better or worse, but that’s not POTUS setting prices. There’s only three ways it can go. It can get worse, it can remain status quo, or it can get better. Policy is an influence, but corporate carries the hammer. And politicians are beholden to corporate.

        In the case of our orange idiot soon to be POTUS, I’d have preferred staus quo over worse. Worse it will be. Because corporate is where the money is, and orange shit flows towards the money. Not us.

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      59. POTUS does however cause inflation with massive giveaways and loan forgiveness.
        Harris won the fundraising and is also supports by the likes of black rock who also coerces policy like DEI on companies. It’s a mess where no one has the edge in virtue.

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      60. and yet more lies, Jim. Unsurprisingly, your orange moron cut taxes for the rich, and thus made a deficit. Curiosu how every single time that the republicans have gotten power, they’ve drive up both the debt and deficit, and democrats have brought both down and fixed things.

        so, dear, what is “black rock”? And it’s great fun that you think equal rights is wrong with your repeated lies about DEI. You literally have no virtue at all.

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      62. ROFL. Again, more nonsense from poor ol’ Jim. Curious how it’s hard to fix things when one is opposed by idiot maga losers. It’s amazing how you think there must be magic wands handed out. alas for you, Biden did get things back working, like the supply chain, etc.

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      65. If you are right, this should be an indication of why Trump was elected president this time. In spite of how horrible he was, he was better than the Democrat offering this round. Nice try but the American people are sick and tired of being called descapota, garbage, etc. They’re sick of the left wing hate, racism, failed policy, and war

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      66. Again, more baseless assertions and logical fallacies, Jim. Your appeal to popularity fallacy doesn’t mean that Trump was better than anyone. It only shows that Americans are more ignorant and selfish than was thought.

        Funny how your orange rapist calls people internal enemies, calls immigrants rapists and murderers,etc. And it’s hilariosui to see racists claim that other people are racists, with no evidence at all. Again, that psychological projection is strong with you.

        War isn’t desired, but that is sometimes how someone stops genocidal idiots. As usual, it seems that trumpees are selfish and ignorant, with the delusion that bullies will stop before they get to them.

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      68. Nice to see yet another example of how conservatives try to lie and claim others are doing what they do. It’s great to see conservatives, who have no problem with Russia and their orange rapist supporting Russia, try now to claim that it’s liberals who are being manipulated by Russia when evidence shows otherwise.

        Curious how it was their orange rapist that invited Russian and other foreign actors to attack the US, asking Russia to find the emails they claimed existed and yet never were able to show to support their lies. Unsurprisngly, any “racial and gender wars” are the result of conservative lies, with their association with known bigots and racists. Rather than minding their own business, these conservatives repeatedly try to spread their usual hate and ignorance. It’s not liberals sending racist tracts around in communities, nor is it liberals who claims that some people aren’t human because of who they love.

        Like all frauds, conservatives, including Jim, try to claim that only they have the truth. They cannot show this to be true. I do enjoy how these failures attack Reddit when they want and yet run to it if it supports their lies. Guess who is behind Russia Today? Yep, Putin, Trump’s dear friend.

        And guess who accepts these conspiracy theories? Yep, Jim who does exactly what the Russians want, amplify their content. Unsurprisnigly, it isn’t Russia who is at fault for being racist, misogynist, misoandrist, anti-semitic, etc, it’s americans who are all of those things and needed no one to fan the flames except for one orange rapist. All Russia did is boost the right wing and its hate. The lies of conservatives that it is both equally is simply false.

        It’s always fun when the conservatives try to blame someone else for what they enthusiastically do. It’s rather like watching Christians whine when they don’t want responsibility for what their ignorant religion teaches.

        Unsurprisngly, Jim, you ignore the few good ideas in this reddit post. You accept lies. You gobble down groupthink. You have no truth at all.

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      70. Unsurprisngly, the US has been divided, and all it took was one orange rapist allowing it to come to the surface. You want to blame Russia, China, etc, and you find you must lie to excuse your own actions. I’ve won nothing. And again, you have demonstrated you have been manipulated, unable to show my points or sources wrong. You have yet to show that I’ve been manipulated.

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      71. You’re winning at supporting the divisive propaganda. The US is just as bad. Congratulations on Pennsylvania turning red. Must be a real bitch. lol

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      75. You’re providing all the evidence needed to prove I’m right about your being suckered by propaganda. It doesn’t matter which side you support. Division is the agenda you big sucker

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      77. Don’t be an idiot. You can’t possibly believe the news or I’ve underestimated how far gone you are. I think you should take a break—you’re taking the game too seriously and your pointless accusations are exactly what the programming is supposed to do. See how well it’s working on you? Can you identify your own brainwashing? Evidently not, but you will.

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      78. And still more fail from you, Jim. Still no evidence for your conspiracy theories, just the lies of the delusional. It’s so sweet that you try to gaslight me, with your desperate pleading that I stop showing you for the loser you are.

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      87. If you haven’t noticed, the entire country is red except for the cities. And in those cities is the worst of America. The worst crime, the worst homelessness, the worst education, the worst employment, and like I said, before you lack the biome to see outside of your own bubble, yet insist on making rules for people that don’t live in it

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      88. poor Jim, the usual bigot nonsense. It’s hilarious how your claims about a “biome” were completely lies. Unsurprisngly, having grown up in a very rural area, I personally know you are lying.

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      90. $3.3 trillion were printed in 2020. In the past four years, something like 80% of all the money ever printed was printed. Those giveaways have consequences we are seeing now.

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      91. and yet more nonsense from Jim. That money helped the economy from cratering during the pandemic. So, Jim, did you cash those government checks that were given out? And curiosu how you are so upset about “giveaways” to people, students, etc, but seem to have no problem when billionaires and corporations got giveaways that were far far larger.

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      95. I don’t unite with wannabee dictators who want to put up concentration camps. It’s hilarious how trumpees demand that we work with them, when they never want to work with us.

        I can have my input and not agree with a liar, a rapist, a cheat, a fraud, and a coward.

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      97. wow, jim, it’s great how you are an incompetent liar yet again. Curious how its Alex Jones who supports the guy who wants the concentration camps, dictators, etc. Curious how Alex Jones is the guy who lied about the children murdered at Sandy Hook.

        ” As Donald Trump faces growing scrutiny over his increasingly authoritarian and violent rhetoric, Fox News host Sean Hannity gave his longtime friend a chance to assure the American people that he wouldn’t abuse power or seek retribution if he wins a second term.

        But instead of offering a perfunctory answer brushing off the warnings, Trump stoked the fire.

        “Except for day one,” the GOP front-runner said Tuesday night before a live audience in Davenport, Iowa. “I want to close the border, and I want to drill, drill, drill.”

        And in case anyone missed it, he reenacted the exchange.

        “We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’””

        funny how wannabee dictators lie, Jim.

        “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump does not rule out building detention camps on U.S. soil for migrants in the country illegally if he wins a second White House term, he told Time magazine in an interview published on Tuesday.
        Trump was asked whether he would build new detention camps as part of his campaign pledge to carry out the biggest deportation of migrants in the country illegally.
        “I would not rule out anything,” Trump said. “But there wouldn’t be that much of a need for them” because, he said, the plan is to deport migrants in the U.S. illegally back to their home countries as quickly as possible.
        “We’re not leaving them in the country,” Trump said. “We’re bringing them out.”

        Trump said he would use National Guard troops to assist in his planned deportation efforts, but also did not rule out deploying active military forces to help.
        “I don’t think I’d have to do that. I think the National Guard would be able to do that. If they weren’t able to, then I’d use the military,” he said.
        Trump was asked about the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, a post- Civil War law that prohibits the deployment of the military against civilians.

        “Well, these aren’t civilians. These are people that aren’t legally in our country. This is an invasion of our country,” Trump said.
        Trump has used dehumanizing terminology to describe immigrants in the U.S. illegally, calling them “animals” when talking about alleged criminal acts, and saying they are “poisoning the blood of our country,” a phrase that has drawn criticism as xenophobic and echoing Nazi rhetoric.” – Trump does not rule out building detention camps for mass deportations By Tim Reid and Ted Hesson April 30, 2024 Reuters

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      99. And again, Jim, you have yet to show my points wrong or my sources wrong. It’s rather amusing to watch you use so many christian tactics when you try to attack me. I have no religion, Jim. Your false claims fail as usual.

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      102. It’s hard to tell that by your passion for the nonsense and your determination to prove you’re right. You’re not. Just a parrot of another set of propagandas

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      104. You have bias, spoon fed evidence—which one is better?
        It is easier to be fools that to admit to being fooled —mark twain.
        I know I’ve been deceived, but you’re still buying the nonsense.

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      108. Democrats have failed to stay in power by their own mistakes and overreach. Wah wah. Now make accusations, name call, divert from the way you all failed the working class. Don’t be a biatch

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      109. Poor Jim, curious how it’s only him who is using “name calling”, with his lovely attempts to call me a bitch. Unsurprisingly, democrats and unions have helped the working class, by protecting workers’ rights, having days off rather than working 6-7 straight, not allowing children to be used, fair wages, etc.

        As always, Jim, you make accusations and have nothing to support them. How pitiful.

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      114. Your behavior is religious. Political ideology is a belief system. Yours just happens to have a poor track record. Like your copy and paste talking point comments—Your beliefs are someone else’s ideas. Why don’t you say anything at all that isn’t part of the divisive narrative? Because you’re a believer, pure and simple. A follower. A clown. And a piece of shit

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      116. You’re obviously in no position to criticize anyone else’s beliefs. When right here you are failing to be able to criticize your own. It’s a religion. Just like a Jehovah’s Witness, Mormon, or Muslim. You’re defending an ideology that has no evidence of working other than your subjective indoctrination.

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      125. Funny how Trump showed them right by giving national secrets to the Russians and having his little private time with Putin. Strange how that’s when we started seeing the russians having their internet farms to try to change discussions. You know, when Trump invited Russia to hack into american computers.

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      127. unsurprisingly, there is evidence for my points:

        https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-revealed-intelligence-secrets-to-russians-in-oval-office-officials-idUSKCN18B2MM/

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-putin-meeting-business/story?id=63967271

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/intel-director-says-trump-shouldnt-have-met-one-on-one-with-putin-1532038521

        https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-alone-1033444

        https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2018/07/29/understanding-the-trump-putin-bromance/

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      131. Yep, the common excuse for the liar who has no evidence for their claims. Christians and other theists do this often.

        it’s great that you keep trying to lie about me, Jim. I always read to comprehend. If I do find fault, then there is no reason to lie and try to hide it, is there, Jim?

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      134. If you’d like to go into conservatism I can do that too. I was simply pointing out the nonsensical side you’ve taken. It doesn’t matter what side you believe, but THAT you believe. That is the point of division the likes of Kamala, Willie brown, and Jim jones count on. You do realize there’s only 2° of separation between them, and you’ve fallen for it

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      136. It’s actually true. Just look it up. Your people are more corrupt than you’re willing to imagine. It’s ok. We’re already living in a a fallen republic. We’re all commies and don’t even know it.

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      140. You have a selective memory.
        Yes on the plan. The progressives (communists) have had a foothold since the the 1930’s and as we can tell by education and business, the country on both sides is already burdened with excessive tax and regulation and is, left and right, already communist. We just don’t identify as such. The republic fell years ago, so why are you still crying?

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      142. Haha. You’re in ignorant denial. Just look around you. The experts have the world right where it is today. Just keep waving the flag and telling yourself you’re free.

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      144. Just for a moment it would be nice for you to think for yourself. I know that’s a tall order, but it is possible if you’d abandon all your biased sources for a few weeks. All I’ve heard is repeats parroting your trusted sources

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      146. You just contradicted yourself. You’re relying on opinions (evidence) vs your own eyes. Your evidence is from the same people that have the world exactly as it is. The experts and all the institutions are corrupt—except yours…

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      147. No contradictions at all, and as usual, you can’t show any. You are quite a hilarious failure, Jim, since everyone, including your sorry self depends on evidence. And no, dear, evidence is not opinion.

        your delusions about some grand conspiracy are, as usual, based on nothing.

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      148. Your belief in a main stream narrative is evidence your mind has been high-jacked and you’re just repeating your favorite influential celebrities of science and politics. These are not your thoughts, but someone else’s.
        This is so blatantly obvious yet apparently you need shock therapy to break its spell. What do you believe? Go on now, and repeat some obvious faulty, one sided talking points. These are not your thoughts! Turn all that crap off and MAYBE you’ll have an original thought or observation. Typical religious believer, only yours is some partisan hack that’s using your own neighbors as the dividing tool. We are doomed with this BS pseudo-intellectual nonsense.

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      155. Happily, we are very different. I’m not a failure who can’t support their lies and who accuses others of doing what you do. You are just one more delusional fellow who thinks he knows some magical secrets to the universe and that makes him special, aka just another conspiracy theorist who has nothing.

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      156. I can’t support your sources which are corrupt institutions. Lucky for you your immune to honest investigation or you’d see the corruption

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      160. Well, I don’t believe your bibles and see the corruption, manipulative sound bites, half truths, innuendos, and failed prophecy. How many times do your sources reject any form of accountability? It’s a religion all right.

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      162. Would any evidence matter? Would you change your mind? I’ve followed you for years and while “evidence” is your mantra, I don’t believe I’ve EVER seen you change your mind, or even understand another point of view. I don’t believe your evidence is accurate or non biased. That is good enough for you, should be good enough for me.

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      163. Like all who have no evidence for their claims, you now make false claims about me to give you an excuse for your failure. Why would I change my mind if a theist, or you, has no evidence. Unsurprisngly, you also find the need to lie and claim I don’t understand other points of view. I understand them quite well and understanding doesn’t mean I need to agree.

        You have yet to show that my evidence isn’t accurate or that it is biased. I’ve shown your claims to be false.

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      168. The nature of reality—how we perceive, interpret, and understand the world—has a profound influence on our political views. Our political beliefs are shaped by a combination of objective facts, subjective experiences, cognitive biases, and societal influences. Here’s how reality plays a role:

        —

        ### 1. **Perception of Reality**
        – **Cognitive Filters:** People interpret reality through personal experiences, upbringing, education, and cultural influences. These filters shape how we view issues like inequality, justice, or freedom.
        – **Media and Information Sources:** Media outlets present reality differently based on their editorial slant. The version of reality we consume—whether from traditional media, social media, or independent sources—directly impacts our political leanings.

        —

        ### 2. **Cognitive Biases and Mental Models**
        – **Confirmation Bias:** People are more likely to accept information that confirms their preexisting beliefs, reinforcing their political views.
        – **Anchoring Effect:** Early life experiences or formative influences can set a baseline for political perspectives, which are hard to shift later.
        – **Over-simplification:** Complex realities (e.g., economic inequality, climate change) are often simplified into narratives that align with political ideologies.

        —

        ### 3. **Objective vs. Subjective Realities**
        – **Objective Reality:** Measurable facts (e.g., economic statistics, scientific data) influence policy preferences. For instance, awareness of income disparities may push individuals toward redistributive policies.
        – **Subjective Reality:** Emotional and symbolic interpretations of reality (e.g., national identity, moral values) strongly influence political alignment. People often prioritize subjective feelings over objective facts when forming political opinions.

        —

        ### 4. **Reality as a Shared Construct**
        – **Social Narratives:** Political systems depend on shared narratives about reality—such as the role of government or individual freedoms. These narratives can unify societies but also polarize them when competing visions of reality emerge.
        – **Polarized Realities:** In an era of misinformation and algorithmic echo chambers, people often inhabit different “realities,” leading to stark political divides.

        —

        ### 5. **Philosophical Underpinnings**
        – **Epistemology (How We Know What We Know):** People’s trust in science, religion, or tradition affects how they view political issues. For example, debates on climate change or vaccination reflect differing approaches to knowledge and reality.
        – **Ontology (What Exists):** Beliefs about the fundamental nature of existence—individualism vs. collectivism, for instance—shape policy preferences and political ideology.

        —

        ### 6. **Impact on Political Polarization**
        – The fragmentation of reality through tailored media and social media algorithms exacerbates polarization, as people increasingly encounter only realities that reinforce their political identity.
        – Shared understanding of reality is critical for compromise and dialogue, but divergent perceptions often hinder productive political discourse.

        —

        ### Conclusion
        Our political views are deeply intertwined with how we perceive and interpret reality. Recognizing the influence of subjective experiences, cognitive biases, and societal narratives can help foster greater empathy and understanding in political discussions. Addressing polarization may require finding ways to build a more unified perception of reality through shared dialogue and evidence-based communication.

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      174. You support a wierd bunch of corrupt assholes
        “CNN—Ukraine has fired US-made ATACMS missiles into Russia’s Bryansk region, Russia’s Defense Ministry said, in a major escalation on the 1,000th day of war.
        The attack comes just two days after the Biden administration gave Kyiv the green light to use the longer-range American weapons against targets inside Russia.

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      176. Your evidence from all those claims above is vindictive and bias (fact checked by its own arbiters)
        Religion and politics promote the same faulty premise: obedience to authority. The rest is just a squabble over the details. The squabble is the point of it all. Congratulations —you are the queen of squabble, babbling, gaslighting narcissist, which by the way is a comorbidity of other mental illnesses, trans illness, and DEI illness. Would you like some evidence for that, or can you google comorbidity of GID?

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      179. And again, Jim, you have no evidence for your accusations. Show that I “hate truth and facts”.

        It is typical for someone who has no evidence for his claims to lash out with additional lies.

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      180. The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds.” – R.D. Laing
        You take the cake on this.

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      184. I have all the evidence I need as you continue to smugly discount anyone who disagrees with you and how horribly bias and misinformed you have represented my “claims” that you insist in your ignorance doesn’t fit your preordained ridiculous, fact checked narrative.
        As poorly as you have interpreted me, I have no doubt the rest of your “evidence “ is complete nonsense as well.

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      186. Do you have anything relevant to the post? Do you even remember what it’s about? If you weren’t so bias and narrow minded we might actually learn something other than your communist talking points

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      187. and still no evidence for your claims. Poor Jim, he can’t remember I *wrote* the post. Lovely that you again show you have no idea what communism, or Communism, is.

        you started with this garbage: “I don’t remember any jackboots from the first four years, so I wonder which policies affected you so directly or deeply that you’d be worried now? I recall this type of catastrophe the first time and nothing happened. Relax. Don’t believe anything you hear. None of its true”

        and proceeded to fail to support any of your claims.

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      188. What evidence do you have for jackboots? Where are they? Your fact checkers who bring you back to the approved narrative? The DEI in secret service the whole world watched as you embarrassed yourself with this nonsense is all the proof we need of your failed beliefs

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      189. And yet again, poor Jim is terribly ignorant on how wannabee nazis work; it doesn’t start with jackboots. I’ve already explained why your idiocy fails, dear. Still no evdience for your claims.

        It’s great how you still can’t show fact checkers to be wrong, or that DEI is some horrible thing. And DEI in “secret service”, what are you blathering about, dear?

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      190. The blundering of those idiot women during the assassination attempt on Donald Trump? That ring a bell?
        If men and women are the same, ie, equal, why does their have to be laws to achieve that equality, and who by majority, has to enforce those laws? I think you may be retarded. Have fun in your illusion

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      191. ah, now we get to see the typical misogyny of a conservative. Men and women aren’t the same, we each have our strengths, and some women are stronger than some men, and some men are smarter than some women. Each deserves equal treatment. That’s what equality means, dear.

        Nothing shows that anyone’s gender has anything to do with their performance of duties.

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      193. Poor Jim, so afraid of his nuts being clipped. “Yes, misogyny. Great liberal buzz word to clip the nuts of common sense by accusations and labels. Meaningless words again. Thank you”

        Unsurprisngly, misogyny has a definite meaning: “hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women” Merriam-Webster

        shown in Jim’s own comment here: “The blundering of those idiot women during the assassination attempt on Donald Trump? That ring a bell?
        If men and women are the same, ie, equal, why does their have to be laws to achieve that equality, and who by majority, has to enforce those laws? I think you may be retarded. Have fun in your illusion”

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      199. Alas, Jim, your claims about being trans, etc being a “mental illness” are simply false, your usual baseless nonsense.

        As usual, you fail to actually read what you cite in your desperation:

        “Gender identity disorder (GID) is considered by some authors to be part of an underlying psychiatric morbidity, namely, borderline personality [1], [2] or psychotic disorder [3], which, in the past, led to the recommendation to abandon sex reassignment altogether in patients with profound psychological dysfunction [2]. Other authors regard GID as a nosological entity and assume that psychiatric comorbidity is a consequence of the persistent gender dysphoria and the concomitant psychosocial distress [4], [5], [6], [7]. Furthermore, psychiatric comorbidity and mental instability seem to be important unfavorable prognostic factors for long-term psychosocial adjustment [8], [9], [10].
        Despite clinical relevance, studies using standardized diagnostic instruments to assess psychiatric comorbidity in GID are scarce. Bodlund et al. diagnosed a personality disorder, mainly Cluster B, in 5 of 19 GID patients using SCID screen for DSM-III Axis II. Subthreshold personality disorder was more frequent than in a control sample, and a clinical diagnosis of an Axis I disorder was found in 10 of 19 patients [11]. Haraldsen and Dahl [5], using SCID I and II found current Axis I disorders in 33% of 86 GID patients (predominantly mood and anxiety disorders) and Axis II disorders (most frequently Cluster B) in 20%.”

        You conflate the psychological harm that is inflicted on transpeople by people like you with the condition of being transgender.

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      200. If you believe logical, sane people are running the country, education, and legislation you should have nothing to worry about—yet you worry. Your interpretation of the data is so unbelievably filtered it doesn’t match with reality.
        The NIH compiles the data and presents averages. You don’t like that because it contradicts your silly sense of telescopic philanthropy. In all my dealing here on WP with believers, you have bitten that hook more than anyone I can remember.

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      201. And still no evidence for your lies, Jim. Where am I worrying? Oh, right I’m not and you are a failure. Again, the NIH did not agree with your lies. and it’s great when you make up nonsense like “telescopic philanthropy”.

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      202. Your reading comprehension is low and biased. It doesn’t say what you’re claiming in fact, what you posted supports my claim. Is it possible you’re wrong about anything at all? Very arrogant

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      206. Funny how it says this “In 38% of the individuals with gender identity disorder a current DSM-IV-TR Axis I diagnosis was found, mainly affective disorders and anxiety disorders. Furthermore, almost 70% had a current and lifetime diagnosis. All four countries showed a similar prevalence, except for affective and anxiety disorders, and no difference was found between individuals with early-onset and late-onset disorder. An Axis II diagnosis was found in 15% of all individuals with gender identity disorder, which is comparable to the general population.”

        Axis II is regarding personality disorders, including narcissism.

        here’s the discussion part of the paper since I’m sure you can’t manage to read it:

        “Overall, we found that Axis I disorders were more common in applicants for treatment of gender identity disorder compared with the general populations of the participating countries. Reference Bruffaerts, Bonnewyn, Van Oyen, Demarest and Demyttenaere23-Reference Kringlen, Torgersen and Cramer26 On closer inspection we found that this difference was mainly due to affective and anxiety disorders, with the gender identity disorder group showing higher rates than the general population. This was the case in all four countries and for both male to female and female to male reassignment groups. Other Axis I clusters were found to be equally prevalent compared with the general population. Although the prevalence rates of affective and anxiety disorders in the general population differed slightly between the four countries, this cannot fully account for the differences we found in our population. A new study would be needed to assess which factors (e.g. patient and clinician characteristics or social differences among the countries) might explain these findings.

        The incongruence between gender identity and social life and/or bodily characteristics experienced by individuals diagnosed with gender identity disorder can cause much distress that may lead to affective and anxiety problems and even disorders. Follow-up studies often show a resolution of depressive and anxious symptoms throughout the treatment process. Reference Mate-Kole, Freschi and Robin27-Reference Gomez-Gil, Vidal-Hagemeijer and Salamero29 Furthermore, the phenomenon of ‘minority stress’ can also explain the high prevalence of affective disorders. Social discrimination and stigmatisation may cause a diminished quality of life, particularly with regard to mental health. Reference Newfield, Hart, Dibble and Kohler30

        The findings with regard to the prevalence of suicide risk confirm results on this topic. Reference Hoshiai, Matsumoto, Sato, Ohnishi, Okabe and Kishimoto8,Reference Terada, Matsumoto, Sato, Okabe, Kishimoto and Uchitomi31,Reference Haas, Eliason, Mays, Mathy, Cochran and D’Augelli32 Terada et al reported that the high prevalence of suicidality in their gender identity disorder population was not related to psychiatric comorbidity. Reference Haas, Eliason, Mays, Mathy, Cochran and D’Augelli32 This suggests that gender identity disorder is an independent risk factor for suicidal behaviour and this could be interpreted as an (inappropriate) coping strategy. Reference Terada, Matsumoto, Sato, Okabe, Kishimoto and Uchitomi31 In a report on suicide and suicide risk in transgender populations, Haas et al emphasised high suicide and suicide attempt rates. Reference Haas, Eliason, Mays, Mathy, Cochran and D’Augelli32 Besides the high prevalence of depression, anxiety and substance misuse in these populations, factors such as parental rejection and discrimination are linked to elevated risk of suicidal behaviour. A longitudinal study in lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth by Liu & Mustanski showed that childhood gender non-conformity and victimisation were associated with increased risk of self-harm and suicidal ideation. Reference Liu and Mustanski33 In our study, suicidality was assessed using the MINI-Plus interview, which was also used to measure Axis I disorders; we therefore could not investigate whether there was an association between suicide risk and having an Axis I disorder. No association was found between suicide risk and the presence of personality disorder, which again illustrates that gender identity disorder may be an independent risk factor for suicidality.

        Major psychiatric disorders such as bipolar disorder or psychosis were rarely found and did not exceed prevalence in the general population. Reference Bruffaerts, Bonnewyn, Van Oyen, Demarest and Demyttenaere23-Reference De Graaf, Ten Have, van and van25 Since the presence of psychosis was explicitly defined as an exclusion criterion, there was a severe bias. However, the low number of applicants (16 of 846) excluded for this reason does not suggest that our findings were a severe underestimation of the true prevalence.

        Comparison between the prevalence of Axis I disorders in our study and rates in the general population should be interpreted with caution: epidemiological studies in different countries use different instruments and sometimes data on certain clinical categories are simply missing. Still, it is clear that the prevalence of both current and current and lifetime Axis I disorders in our study population is higher than in the general population of all four countries. This difference is mainly due to the high prevalence (up to three times higher compared with the general population) of affective and anxiety disorders. For example, current affective problems occur at rates between 6% (Belgium and The Netherlands) and 11-12% (Germany and Norway) in the general population, whereas in our sample prevalence rates ranged from 13% and 25% (Belgium and The Netherlands) to 40% and 35% (Germany and Norway). Reference Bruffaerts, Bonnewyn, Van Oyen, Demarest and Demyttenaere23-Reference Kringlen, Torgersen and Cramer26 The European Study of the Epidemiology of Mental Disorders (ESEMeD) project, conducted in six European countries (including Belgium, Germany and The Netherlands), found a lifetime prevalence of any mental disorder in 25% of respondents, a much lower percentage than in our cohort (see above). Any mood disorder and any anxiety disorder were found in 14%. Women were twice as likely to have any mental problem compared with men, especially with regard to mood and anxiety disorders which occurred two to three times more frequently in women. Reference Alonso, Angermeyer, Bernert, Bruffaerts, Brugha and Bryson34 In our sample Axis I disorders were equally distributed in the male to female and female to male reassignment subgroups, except in Norway where they were more common in the female to male group.

        The low degree of psychopathology with regard to personality disorders replicates the findings of some earlier studies, Reference Miach, Berah, Butcher and Rouse35 but contradicts the high prevalence of such disorders found in similar studies by Hepp et al and Madeddu et al: both studies also used the SCID-II interview and included only people with gender identity disorder, Reference Hepp, Kraemer, Schnyder, Miller and Delsignore4,Reference Madeddu, Prunas and Hartmann36 as we did in our study. A potential explanation for our findings contradicting those of Hepp et al and Madeddu et al could be that some individuals with a personality disorder were more reluctant to participate in our study owing to a lack of confidence in professional caregivers. Our findings accord with prevalence rates of personality disorders in the general population of Germany (10.0%) and Norway (13.4%). Reference Maier, Lichtermann, Klinger, Heun and Hallmayer37,Reference Torgersen, Kringlen and Cramer38 No information on prevalence exists for Belgium; however, in The Netherlands the prevalence is 13.5%.39 Moreover, the distribution in clusters of personality disorders found in this study resembles the distribution found in epidemiological studies in Germany, Norway and The Netherlands. Reference Maier, Lichtermann, Klinger, Heun and Hallmayer37-39 Statistics on the Axis II data should be interpreted with caution, owing to the low numbers in most disorder categories.

        In contrast to some reports (and the general impression among clinicians) that individuals with late-onset gender identity disorder are more psychiatrically affected, Reference Smith, van, Kuiper and Cohen-Kettenis15 no difference concerning psychiatric comorbidity, whether Axis I and Axis II, was found between individuals with early- v. late-onset disorder. The only exception was among the female to male reassignment group, in which those with late-onset disorder showed more Axis II problems than those with early-onset disorder, but numbers were very small (only four individuals in the late-onset group) and this finding needs to be replicated in a larger study.

        In conclusion, our findings show that individuals with gender identity disorder have more psychiatric problems than the general population: mostly these are affective and anxiety problems. Although more decisive conclusions cannot be drawn owing to the cross-sectional design of our study, psychopathological symptoms seem to be closely related to the individual’s longstanding and strongly felt identification with the other gender. Further research should focus on long-term follow-up studies using standardised diagnostic and therapeutic protocols in order to determine whether the Axis I diagnosis rate decreases with treatment and whether such a decrease manifests in any particular subcategory of patient. This might lead to a better understanding of the nature of gender identity disorder and of the psychiatric symptoms experienced in connection with this disorder.”

        as one can see, the research on this is just starting.

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      207. More like 60% for narcissism and I suspect the same is true of those that support it.
        NIH Results: “The frequency of personality disorders was 81.4%. The most frequent personality disorder was narcissistic personality disorder (57.1%) and the least was borderline personality disorder. The average number of diagnoses was 3.0 per patient”. NIH

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4301205/

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      208. And again, no evidence for your nonsense, Jim. The paper you cite is from iran, a country that lies about LGBT+ people all of the time. Unsurprisingly, no other research agrees with them.

        there is also this part “This study also faced other limitations. Patients in our research may be imperfect samples of all GID patients. In Iran, GID patients are guided to Tehran Institute of Psychiatry when they request a new official identity or sex reassignment surgery (SRS). Consequently, samples in this study can be considered a sample of patients who have more psychiatric problems or more intense conflicts with their conceived identity. Furthermore, although according to some studies there is a fair clinical concordance between the MCMI II and DSM-III-R criteria, some other studies showed that the MCMI II is not congruent with Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-III-R (29-31).Therefore, it is a limitation of our study that only the MCMI II test, which is a self-report questionnaire, was applied and personality disorder was not assessed by other standard tests such as SCID-II. Conducting further studies with gold standard instruments such as SCID-II and a control group is recommended. In addition, this study was clinic-based, and a field study may also be helpful to determine the comorbidity of personality disorders in less severe cases.”

        and as usual, your lies about anyone who dares to disagree with your hate also have no evidence to support them.

        there is the disclaimer at the top, which you’ve also ignored: “As a library, NLM provides access to scientific literature. Inclusion in an NLM database does not imply endorsement of, or agreement with, the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health.”

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      209. You trust the experts and the politicians, when all around you is this? That your representatives have your interests at heart? Don’t be ridiculous. They have you right where they want you. Bitter, abrasive know it all

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      211. I’m not a conservative. I’m just honest. Unlike you I can see the flaws in both sides. This is how you’re behaving like a religious zealot.
        I’m sure it’s easy for you to pick apart every religious belief, where the believer can never see their owns flaw. This is where your political belief rests in bias nonsense. It’s very clear you’ve been duped—but you’re a believer. That’s all that matters because belief is what divides.
        The cure is pacifism. It’s seems counterintuitive but the game is to get us to fight. Not about what, but just fight. You’re winning for them.

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      212. You are a conservative, Jim. You repeat their baseless lies and their amusing little insults. It’s hilarious how yet again you accuse me of what you do, Jim. You spread lies, have nothing to support them and accuse me of spreading division, again, just as you have done yourself.

        Pacifism cures nothing at all. Only those who want no resistance encourage it.

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      219. Nice try. Your posts are so one sided it’s obvious your sources are too. Your inability to comprehend another viewpoint is telling. Reminds me a bit of Mel Wild

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      220. And yet, you can’t show that at all, Jim. I can easily comprehend other viewpoints. I simply don’t agree with them. That seems to be what upsets you, that I don’t accept your baseless garbage without evidence. Seems that Mel Wild is a delusional cultist, funny how you can’t actually show any comparison as usual.

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      221. You’re still here whining? The left wing disinformation information you claim to be facts is less reliable than Mel’s Bible yet you have no problem being in that cult.
        You’ve chosen sides based solely on which arm of the propaganda gives you the highest amount of virtue signaling. It is clear you are a cultist no less than any religious zealot.

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      222. This is my blog, dear. Lovely to see you think your lies won’t be challenged. funny how you still can’t show that my points aren’t true or that they are less valid than the bible garbage.

        Again, nice to see you accusing me of what you do, Jim. You have quite a problem with projection.

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      224. Happily, reality has nothing to do with your delusions, Jim. I do enjoy how you are desperately trying to change the subject. What does quantum mechanics have to do with what we have been discussing? From what that rather strange little video had, it seems that there are a lot of claims and no evidence to support them, with plenty of *ifs* and *maybes*. Like so many conspiracy theorists and cultists, you try to claim that quantum mechanics makes your lies true and you have no idea about what it actually describes. Curious how there is still no evidence for “metaphysics” at all, and all that seems to be here is the usual “metaphysics of the gaps” nonsense, aka “we don’t understand something so we’ll attribute it to something we can’t show exists.

        I do love silly things like this since unsurprisingly, the universe doesn’t act like things magically disappear if we aren’t looking at them. Gravity is always around and thus the mass that causes it doesn’t disappear.

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      231. For being clubshadenfreude you seem to enjoy your own misery too. Projecting your own insecurities and misrepresenting every comment with bias. I spent the government checks immediately on stocks because of the inflation it would cause, would double the stock market which it has

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      232. Yep, like all idiot trumpers, Jim has to lie yet again. Poor dear,still no evidence for his lies about any “approved narrative” at all.

        it’s sad to see an atheist just as stupid any cultist. Jim is just one more ignorant bigot who is terrified of people learning what he doesn’t like.

        Your hate and selfishness isn’t normal. You don’t get to claim that. No wonder your daughter wants nothing to do with you since you’ve show that you are indeed a cis white male that support a wannabee nazi and dictator. And funny you arepart of the white patriarchy thanks to your revealing just who you support. You lie when you claimnoone has given you anything, when you depend on the idea that citizens support each other by gathering taxes so we can all benefit from things like highways, safe food, etc. So your lie that you didn’t get help from anyone fails miserably.

        It’s great how poor Jim has no idea how the economy works. Curious how you still couldn’t afford your groceries and your commute when trump was in charge, so your delusion that things will change is precious.

        Yep, more delusions about some magical cabal in charge of the worl.

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      233. The country has spoken and it’s a call out to the mistakes the democrats have made. Student loan forgiveness, QE, DEI, Inflation, war—nobody want that and the voters have made the corrections. Winning the popular vote AND the electorate. Maybe you’re wrong?

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      234. and still more support from Jim for the orange rapist and his followers. Inflation is down. Student loan forgiveness has helped people and it’s always pathetic how selfish Jim is. War comes whether there are presidents are not, and surprise, it never works out to appease a vicious idiot like Putin. and what is “QE”, Jim?

        Nice appeal to popularity fallacy, Jim.

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      235. You’re being a clown again I can’t tell which third person you’re referring to since you make no sense.
        If you take out a loan you are responsible to pay it back, same as me. What would really be helpful is democrats taking responsibility for their own actions

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      236. If I supposedly make no sense, how are you responding to me, Jim?

        If loans are predatory, and kill someone’s ability to actually exist and do their jobs, loans should be forgiven. Curious how corporations don’t pay back what they got from the US taxpayers during the various economic downturns, etc. i have no problem in wanting people to get help if they need it, including loan forgiveness.

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      237. For what’s it’s worth, I think the biggest danger we are in is a majority rule in all three branches by either party. The church running the state is a dangerous thing as no one is capable of checking their own dogmas. In my voting years I’ve always voted for the opposing party as state auditor, judges, LT governor, etc. Anyone that would actively seek corruption against the majority.
        The left went too far and this election shows

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      240. Why would it be hard to take me seriously when I describe you as the failure you are? It seems that Jim doesn’t think that he can be written about as an object of sentence. Why would that be a problem, Jim?

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      243. So why so condescending? That is the way of the liberal. Smart, know it all, copy and paste talking points that you have not researched yourself. All the while, ignoring the Biden, crime families, accomplishments with China, Russia, Hunter Biden, as corrupt administration as we’ve ever seen, and yet you’re blinded by your ideology. In a nutshell is the problem with academia, atheism for that matter, and free thinking humanists— they all have their talking points and unable to vary from those at all. You’ll see. No accomplishment in the Trump administration will suit you. Ever THE world will be a more peaceful place while you whiny ass bitches. Keep on fighting for what you already have.

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      244. I am condescending to those I find deserving of it, an ignorant man who can’t support his claims. I’m still waiting for evidence for your nonsense, Jim.

        All you have are more baseless claims, Jim. Unsurprisingly, I have researched such things, and I have copy and pasted what I found to show that you are an incompetent liar.

        Funny how you have nothing at all about the “biden crime family” just like your orange rapist had nothing on Hilary Clinton when he lied about emails, and oh yes, invited Russia to attack the US.

        It’s always fun to watch conservatives like you continue to accuse everyone for the things you do. It’s quite a display of psychological projection.

        The trump administration accomplished vanishingly little, Jim. They managed to put three liars on the supreme court, who lied under oath when asked if they would try to remove Roe v. Wade from law. They gave the taliban legitimacy, they gave North Korea legitimacy. They have worked with Putin to attack other democracies.

        No evidence for your lies that the world will be a more peaceful place either. Curious how appeasement never works and yet you want to do that when it comes to Putin, Kim Jong Un, etc.

        if you won’t stand up to people like that, well, that’s all I need to know about you, Jim. Very much like the US isolationists in the 30s: selfish, ignorant and cowardly.

        I am fighting for what conservatives want to take away.

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      245. There’s plenty of evidence, but what you consider evidence is too biased for me. AP fact checkers? lol
        The problem with presenting evidence to you, is you read to disagree instead of comprehension. You’ve already formed a rebuttal before a sentence is finished. It’s distasteful way of living your miles of copy and paste evidence from Liberal, left wing sources. You’re not only wrong, but wrong headed. Enjoy.

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      246. Unsurprisingly, you have no evidence for your claims, yet again, and you try to lie about me not reading for comprehension to excuse your failure, Jim. the Associated Press has very good fact checkers, and you have yet to show that they do not.

        You do a good job at demonstrating how conservatives suffer from psychological projecting, accusing others of what they actually do. Again, you have yet to show my points to be wrong and my sources to be wrong.

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      251. I cannot open your level of awareness. Sufficient to say all media is controlled and you are given exactly what will keep you hating and judging all these “stupid people” that don’t by the nonsense you do

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      253. And still no evidence for your ability to reason out of the mind trap you’re in. This is a troll site, nothing more. Congratulations, you are one with the machine.

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      254. and still no evidence for Jim’s claims. I’ve asked him repeatedly for evidence and he has none, needing to claim that somehow I’ve given him evidence and he can’t show that either.

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      262. Nice false claim yet again, Jim. Pennsylvania isn’t all red. And it’s hilarious to see someone accuse me of being intolerant when you have tried to call me a “piece of shit”.

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      263. I have not tried to call you a piece of shit. It was very overt and upfront. You are the reason the state turned red. People have just had enough of this bullshit. You want evidence when you use the Associated Press to fact check its own fucking stories. They are the arbiter of lies and the fact checkers are designed to return you to the approved narrative. If you can’t see that plain as day you are stuck in your miserable self. Demanding evidence, while providing fact checks from the approved narrative. The same thing is happening in science and academia, unable to present opposing opinions because of this woke mindset. Promoting equality and diversity which are polar opposites, and do not belong in the same sentence. Yet you cannot see the fallacy of all of that nonsense. Another funny one is toxic masculinity. Those two words do not go together. If it’s toxic, it’s not masculinity. The left presents unsolvable religious koans and sits back and watches people fight with each other, and that is the point! Not what you believe, but THAT you believe. You’re a believer, all right, and much worse than a religious kind.
        That is objectively true,.

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      264. you tried, poor thing. I of course don’t accept your lies.

        It’s lovely how ignorant conservatives find they must like. Pennsylvania isn’t red and you have admitted as much as saying cities are blue. It’s hilarious how you can’t show that the AP is wrong, nor that I am wrong. It’s great how you try to claim science is wrong and academia is wrong, and yet you use both with no problems as long as it make you comfy. You are a typical hypocrite, Jim.

        I do love your rant that equality and diversity are “polar opposites”, one more lie with no evidence to support it. It’s no surprise you buy into the he-man garbage, Jim. It’s only losers who do.

        Curious how the left isn’t presenting religion at all. The various religions hate each other with no help from anyone else.

        And gee, the same lies that you’ve written before. Curious how you can’t show how your lies are supposedly “objectively true”.

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      267. ROFL. Sure, dear. funny how you’ve called me a “commie”, a “Typical lib feminazi. All the rights you are granted by weak men doesn’t make you special” all typical nonsense from conservatives and little boys who follow maga nonsense.

        you are quite a failure, Jim.

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      276. Nice to see you simply lashing out and lying, Jim. Do show where Bill Clinton raped someone. Surely you can, right?

        here’s a good wikipedia article on Clinton and his sexual assault history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_assault_and_misconduct_allegations

        show me here where he was found to be a rapist.

        curious how I can show that Trump was: “District Judge Lewis Kaplan has said it multiple times: Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll in 1996. Kaplan wrote it in May 2023, when he presided over one of the trials against Trump. And he reminded jurors of the rape this week, during the latest proceedings in the multi-layered, winding rape and defamation cases brought against Trump by Carroll.

        Last spring, author and journalist Carroll sued Trump, testifying that he had raped her decades ago and had defamed her since by denying the accusations. Carroll won that suit. The jury found Trump liable for sexual assault and said he must pay $5 million—but they came short of saying he had raped her due to the legal scope of New York State’s penal code.

        In New York, someone can only be convicted of rape if they can prove vaginal penetration by a penis. In Carroll’s testimony, which mirrored what she had described privately for decades and publicly for the first time in 2019, she said Trump used both his fingers and his penis in the assault. But during the trial, the jury had only concluded that Trump had “deliberately and forcibly penetrated Ms. Carroll’s vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain and long lasting emotional and psychological harm,” Kaplan’s decision from last year reads.” – “A Federal Judge Has Gone to Great Lengths to Make Clear Trump Really Did Rape E. Jean Carroll
        Why state-level legal minutiae impacts what words are used to describe the former president’s criminal conduct.”, Mother Jones

        and the ruling: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.200.0.pdf

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      279. We should always unite to work together so we have input. Your foul nature will shut you out. Typical lib feminazi. All the rights you are granted by weak men doesn’t make you special

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      280. ROFL. It’s hilarious to see you melting down, Jim. Women haven’t been granted rights by men; we’ve taken all of them by our own strength and will.

        Happily, real men don’t defend rapists, liars, cheats, frauds, thieves and cowards. I’ve been with a man like that for 35 years now.

        Rights don’t make anyone special.

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      281. Nonsense, Jim. You simply lie yet again. We aren’t arguing on what wing of propaganda is best. You are a failed liar on this chain of comments who has consistently made baseless claims and when asked for evidence, has failed everytime to produce any.

        Like every idiot conspiracy theorist, you have nothing but excuses when your lies are revealed.

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      282. You’re the liar—using the AP to fact check its own stories. lol. Nicely done
        You have google, but your algorithms are biased to your search patterns.

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      283. funny how jim still has no evidence to support his lies. Show where democrats are doing what Trump has promised to do, Jim. Yep, you can’t and you are just one more ignorant and selfish failures.

        It’s just great that the democrats aren’t intruding into people’s personal lives, Jim. Democrats don’t tell people what to do in their own homes. Democrats don’t try to take aways freedoms that were long established and then lied under oath. Democrats don’t try to harm people by limiting medical care. Curious how democrats had a bipartisan bill to help control illegal immigration and it was your orange rapist and his cronies that destroyed that since they wanted an issue to campaign on. As always, Jim simply lies andcan’t support his claims that “every talking point” is false.

        You’ve been repeatedly asked for evidence and you have presented none.

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      1. Yeah, I can’t do it. I had to walk away from news when my little brother was jumping out of helicopters in the Gulf War, I can do it again now. I have too. My sanity requires not knowing every stupid shit thing, that stupid shit does, every stupid day, from now to when the fuckever. All I need to know is, will he leave office in 4 years? Or do we have to go drag him out?

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      3. As to the former, one can only hope. As to the latter, it would take more balls than people seem to remember ever having… But maybe, they can find them. My shattered hope for humanity, believes we will roll over and let the fascists have it. The tiny sliver of hope for mankind, buried deeper than the Grinch’s love for x-mas, is quite faint at this this time.

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