Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – the usual christian telling atheists what we believe

Ah, another ignorant christian making up nonsense about atheists, his supposed “dear friends”. (memes at the end)

“I have read the works of atheists and spoken to several over the years, and I even have dear friends who are atheists. I must say, atheists intrigue me. Most are well mannered, probably much more so than I. They are predominately moral people as well, again, likely more so than most of us that are believers in God. They come from all walks of life and demographics. While there is great variance in their backgrounds, I have found an anomaly which is very curious. It seems that, at least in my own interactions and readings, I have discerned that most atheists seem to have anger, if even latent, against God. I find it ironic that this anger is present against Someone they don’t believe is real.”

and yet you pretend these “dear friends” deserve eternal torture. We aren’t angry against your imaginary friend. We can get angry when it comes to the hate, ignorance and fear you theists spread in the name of your fantasy. Your lies cause real harm.

Let’s look at your claims:

“I believe that I can safely deduce that those that turn from belief in a Creator to atheism share a minimum of three things in common. The first commonality being there was a crisis of faith in their lives in which they questioned God. Please bear in mind, it is perfectly normal to question Him, and I believe He expects, as well as encourages us to question Him. He is, after all, our Father. However, these questions should lead one seeking truth to a stronger belief in Him. I also believe that if you are asking the questions and genuinely seeking the truth, not simply your own wants or desires, then you will find evidence of Him, and to a greater degree than what you were originally seeking. We all have crises of faith. All of us are experiencing trials and they are where the crises of faith begin. We are either coming out of trial, in the middle of one, or are preparing to go into one; trials are continuous, and each can be a crisis of faith. “

Yep, I had a question about faith, and prayed for help. Funny how this god did nothing. This is despite the promises of the bible. Your god doesn’t encourage questioning at all. I’ve read the bible, and I know how this god reacts to questions. Job is quite clear.

You try the usual lie that someone will find your god if they are “genuinely seeking the truth”, which indicates you claim we are lying when your claims fail. Sorry, no evidence for your god and I’ve certainly genuinely sought after it. What’s your excuse now? 

“The second commonality is that all, without exception, who experience this crisis have an emotional reaction to the event or events. This certainly is understandable, as we were made in His image, and like Him, we are emotional creatures. This emotional content is typically in the form of disappointment, or anger in God. The catalyst for the crisis could be a myriad of things, but are typically: loss, sickness, silence from God, or possibly what is seen as indifference from Him. These elicit a wide range of emotions, but disappointment and anger are especially common.”

Oh dear, humans have emotional reactions? Yep, we do have emotional reactions to events and we also consider rationaly where the evidence for this god is. No theist has been able to show that their god exists at all. Lots of theists join the cults because of emotions, and that’s why they prey on the suffering, the weak, the frightened.    

“The third step is a combination of the two, consisting of emotionally charged queries of God’s motives. These motives are questioned as the person is looking to levy blame against someone for the pain and suffering experienced in the crisis, and ultimately, God is viewed as being responsible. Remember the problem of evil argument as you think on these things.”

Funny how since you can’t show your god exists means there is no motives either. Christians can’t agree on what their god wants, from morals to how someone is saved. The problem of evil is that your god does nothing at all. And per both jesus and paul, no free will, so that fails as a typical christian excuse.

no god shaped hole, that’s a common lies told by christians to convince themselves everyone “really” agrees with them. Happily, we don’t. And happily, your sadistic fantasies will never come true.

Spurgeon was quite a hilarious cultist. ““If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and uprayed for.””

hmm, which version of christianity is the right one? Oh right, not one of you can show that.

3 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – the usual christian telling atheists what we believe

  1. He seems not as bad as some. I have known several acceptable otherwise intelligent, mostly safe and somewhat moral friends, believers in the one God in three persons, who were angry at God, or maybe at all three, most for quite good reasons.

    Why? Simple. The Creator and unconditionally loving God that they had spent their entire life worshipping had fucked them over, royally. When they would tell me of this, even as an atheist (sometimes they assumed otherwise) I was impressed by how much one must believe in a God to have an emotional opinion, especially one of vocal anger. Still, as far as I knew, none of them took any action. They continued to go to church and to faithfully (mostly) practice the religion or denomination they believed in.

    I know atheists who dislike religion. I am one of those. I may be vocal about it. I do not pretend to love the people who practice such nonsense. I blame them and their religion(s) but never their nonexistent gods.

    I know of not one atheist who is angry with the invisible man in the sky. I do know of folks who got mad at their religion and did stop or find greener dogma. I know folks who claimed “atheist” for emotional reasons, but to do so because one is “angry” at god is to believe in god. Thus, as Mr. Spock would not say, “bull shit!”

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