Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – so, no bible?

Funny how Trump didn’t swear on a bible when taking the oath to be president.

From the Freedom From Religion Foundation:

“Trump’s inauguration turned into a Christian coronation”

“Prayer, as the Freedom From Religion Foundation’s principal founder Anne Nicol Gaylor used to say, is the perfect posture to put something over on others. 

There was exiting President Joe Biden, Vice-President Kamala Harris, former President Barack Obama (looking like he was tasting something he didn’t like), and Democratic opposition leaders, all dutifully bowing their heads and closing their eyes . . . to Trump’s symbolic Christian coronation. When called to pray, most attending members of Congress (95 percent of whom identify as religious) toed the line obediently and reflexively. Ironically, a glowering Trump largely kept his head up and eyes open.

Thus, deference to religion still holds power over politics today and squelches dissent. In short, today’s inauguration theme was that Trump has been divinely ordained to be president.

Franklin Graham’s invocation sounded more like ordaining Trump into sainthood than a prayer: “Look what God has done. We praise him and give him glory, as Donald Trump takes the oath of office again. We come to say thank you, O Lord our God.” Graham then proclaimed, “You and you alone saved his life. We pray for President Trump.”

Trump echoed the sentiment in his inaugural speech, asserting, “My life was saved for a reason. I was saved by God to make America great again.” He then stated that his and his administration’s mission is to “give the people back their faith,” framing his presidency as not just an electoral mandate but a divine mission.

Ironically, while Trump invoked the divine, he forgot (or declined?) to place his hand on the bible during his swearing-in. Perhaps to avoid spontaneous combustion in the nation’s Capitol”

hmm, curious how a guy who claims he doesn’t need forgiveness from the christian god, who is a rapist, serial adulterer, divorcee, liar, cheat, fraud and coward doesn’t want to take an oath on the bible. It’s so nice to see these christian cultists supporting their anti-christ.

22 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – so, no bible?

  1. I cannot believe how many people have been conned by Trump. He leaves so much evidence of his crimes, hand not on the bible, and yet the rationalizations people make for him are mind-bending. I can see the blind religious nuts falling for his con but intelligent people I have trouble fathoming their thought process. They must be hoping Trump will share some of the booty he will grift as Presidential, fools. A White Christian Male/Female America is where this is headed.

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    1. I’ve been thinking that. They had access to the voting machines shortly after the 2020 election. Arizona and Georgia off the top of my mind and who knows, maybe states that weren’t discovered. They had ample time to figure out ways to manipulate the machines. Although Trump thinks he should get every vote, the people responsible would make it look close enough to not raise suspicion.

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      1. Little reported fact — GOP lawyers got the voting machine software in court Discovery processes to see if they could ‘hack’ the system. They couldn’t. But… they got the software. They. Got. The. Software. If somethig did happen, Elon didn’t even need to break in before hacking it from the inside.

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      2. Wait, sorry. I might have gotten that wrong. I do remember reading something aout the lawyers obtaining the software to conduct their own ‘tests’, but I can’t find that on the net after a quick search. What I did find were articles on how GOP operatives stole and distributed the software.

        Whatever the case may be – They. Have. The. Software.

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  2. This is something to note that was observed by others of the inauguration event. The Supreme Court Justice initiated the oath of Office without Trump’s family in place yet, which his wife was holding the Bible that he would’ve place his hand on. I don’t think, based on the events observed, that he was per se avoiding touching the Bible but due to circumstances, had prematurely started without all parts in place, and so started and ended all the same. If anything should be of note, it would be why the Justice decided to not make sure all people involved, including the wife holding the Bible, opted to jump the gun by starting the oath of office before everyone was ready?

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      1. tbh I’m unsure of what you are alleging here with me. I’m speaking to how the oath of office proceeded. I’m as well merely passing on what is being said about the event, so you’re attempting to make this about me and defending Trump is just absurd. Yes, the picture is accurate, and Mrs. Trump did end up standing next to President Trump with the Bible, but I’m speaking to the context of events leading up to the moment. As beforementioned, Trump was standing alone next to the Justice that was to be swearing in Trump and that justice initiated the oath of office without the first family being there, in particularly Mrs. Trump who had the Bible. It is perfectly reasonable to conclude that once Trump was started on the oath of office without his wife and the Bible next to him, that he was then focused on reciting the oath and his wife shortly after coming next to him with the Bible and him not diverting his attention wasn’t some insane ploy of Trump to dismiss the Bible or some other theory. Again, I’m merely passing on what is being conveyed regarding the event and how it unfolded. Your assessment is predicated on particular photos and a disdain for Trump to justify a theory that, when viewed as a whole with how it played out, simply doesn’t pan out. Take it or leave it. This isn’t about me at all. No need to try and divert your outrage on me. lol

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      2. And back again, tsk. Still defending the orange rapist, and the photo is still showing your “what is being said” as false.

        This is a typical christian tactic,”but other people say this” as an excuse to spread lies. Oh dear, you are “merely passing along” lies. The photo has trump without his hand on the bible and taking the oath. Is the poor dear unable to move his hand while talking and unable to see Melania right up against him? ROFL. Like your cult, you’ve invented yet more supposed “perfectly reasonable” assumptions that aren’t supported by reality.

        Curious how I see no “other people” making such claims, Phillip. Where is your source? or did you just make this up on your own?

        and here is more video to show how you are wrong:

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      3. Unsure of what your “Back again” comments refers to. I’m not opposed to offering comments on material and at times, some discussions just end. As to the “defending the orange rapist” nonsense, well it is just nonsense. My passing on the info relating to the event, if anything, are neutral regarding Trump and his character. As well, this isn’t a pet theory of mine, but something that has been observed and commented on by many. Typically, when the oath of office is started, you have the person and their family alongside them already (and with the Bible). It isn’t contested or controversial to say that the Justice started the oath of office without the first family there and ready with the Bible. If you take issue with that, you need to take it up with reality and not me. Your comments directed at me fall away like water on a duck. Just doesn’t apply and is misdirected. This speaks more about you than it does about me.

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      4. so soon they forget:

        “I’ve provided historical evidence, explained its validity, and addressed your selective skepticism, yet you dismiss it all without meaningful engagement. That’s not intellectual rigor; it’s willful ignorance.

        As for pearls before swine, it’s an apt metaphor because no matter how much I offer, you trample it and demand more. Rejecting evidence as evidence doesn’t make it disappear—it just shows you prefer the comfort of denial over the challenge of considering a perspective that might unsettle you.

        Enjoy your echo chamber. I’m done here.”

        your own words, Phillip.

        Nice excuses for your fail, it’s always fun to see christians lie.

        You are passing no information, you are presenting lies. Nice of you to show how you have no source and you have claimed “This is something to note that was observed by others of the inauguration event. ”

        really, who?

        As the videos show, Trump was in place, his family was in place and then they all decided to move around while Chief Justice Roberts was speaking. You still fail in your false claims, Phillip.

        as for comments falling away like water from a duck, why are you still here?

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      5. Well yea, that post and its discussion was at an impasse. Did you assume that finding ourselves in disagreement and gaining no new ground in a discussion and calling it meant that for all time that other post and topics couldn’t be discussed? Weird assumption. Is this normal for you? Good to know.

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      6. Nice attempt to cover your tracks, Phillip. When someone accuses me and my guests of being swine, lies about an “echo chamber” and thinks he’s welcom back is amusing. And aw, now calling me “weird”, to again try to cover up your nonsense. How nice.

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      7. Feigning victimhood now? “Pearls before swine” is a saying, not name calling. Saying, “Weird assumption” isn’t calling you weird. Advising of an “Echo chamber” is an assessment, which you yourself just supported by saying someone like me isn’t welcome back under the guise of victimhood. How nice indeed. In the end, I don’t have to convince you of the things I’ve called you out on. Objective reality exists whether you concur with the assessment or not. It is what it is. If you have a post or comment truly worthy of constructive dialogue, and not some sophomoric rant of discontent and dismissal, I’m more than happy to engage but that’s up to you. (I would also encourage you to seek to understand the difference between name calling and using phrases to convey points with meaning. It was lost on you based on your response).

        God bless!

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      8. Wow, Phil, nice to see more lies. It’s hilarious that you think your god evidently will buy this.

        Pearls before swine is a metaphor. A metaphor is when one thing is symbolic or respresents another.

        Weird assumption is declaring that the one who makes the assumption is weird.

        Echo chamber is a perjorative that tries to claim that those within it only want to hear one thing.

        Liars aren’t welcome dear. Where is this showing any “victimhood” on my part when I can demonstrate your lies?

        Yep, and more baseless claims about me. So your claims about being “more than happy to engage” is quite false.

        Curious how this god doesn’t bless its followers, so do tell why I would think it would bless me.

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  3. Lies? At the 25 second mark is when the Justice starts speaking to trump about raising his right hand and repeating after him. Notice at that exact time, no family members are next to him and Mrs. Trump (and Bible) had to maneuver in place as the oath of office was being given already. Saying I’m lying is just pure nonsense. What seems to be the case is that you didn’t do the background on this and when information conflicts with your theory, you opt to call me a liar instead of being humble and admitting you may have gotten it wrong. A little humility goes a long way in discussions. The proof is here and you can’t name call it away or dismiss it. It is what it is.

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    1. And this is the problem for the justice how? As usual, trump has no awareness of where he is or who is around him. Again, you are indeed lying and trying to spread nonsense. And gee, more baseless assertions about me, with no evidence. No reason to be humble to someone who has lied about me.

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