Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – a bit of nostalgia and still no effects from prayers by professionals

Way back in September 2014, I offered a challenge to a professional Christian and self-proclaimed prophet, Bill Keller.  This was about the challenge he offered to a Muslim leader regarding that old testament contest in 1 Kings 18. Now during that interaction, I was promised that I would be prayed for.  He of course ran away from the challenge.

Surprise, nothing happened despite claims of “Know that I am praying for you, be richly blessed.”  Now, why would such a prayer fail?  It seems that this god doesn’t like this fellow, this fellow isn’t praying correctly, this god likes me as I am, or this god doesn’t exist.

A few months shy of four years….hmmm.  No surprise that Keller supports Trump, a liar, an adulterer, a cheat, and who finds that nazis are “fine people”.  He gives the same excuses that all of his fellow evangelicals give. And he has no problem ignoring his bible when it actually gives some not horrible advice

“The crucible is for silver, and the furnace is for gold,
    but the Lord tests the heart.
An evildoer listens to wicked lips;
    and a liar gives heed to a mischievous tongue.
Those who mock the poor insult their Maker;
    those who are glad at calamity will not go unpunished.
Grandchildren are the crown of the aged,
    and the glory of children is their parents.
Fine speech is not becoming to a fool;
    still less is false speech to a ruler.

In that Bill’s prophecies have failed, is he up for a stoning?

“Because I shared what God showed me (“Under President Kerry, God’s definition of marriage will no longer exist, legal steps will be taken to insure our nation will ALWAYS be in the business of murdering innocent babies, we will continue to see God taken out of every aspect of the daily life of this nation, and Christians will come under greater persecution than we ever thought possible. God is going to give the people exactly what they ask for and because of our gross wickedness, we will see more natural disasters, more attacks on U.S. soil by those who want to destroy us, and the nation will endure great economic hardships as God unleashes His judgment on our nation.”), I have been accused of working for John Kerry, of causing people not to vote, and for being the reason if President Bush is not re-elected. First, if you read ALL that I wrote Monday, I clearly outlined the spiritual abyss this nation will fall into under a Kerry administration. *As I do every year, I will mobilize a massive prayer effort that will be well over 2 million people this year to pray for men and women after God’s heart to be elected and encourage people to get out and vote for those people who will help to bring our nation back to Biblical principles. Lastly, it will be God who determines who the next President is, not Bill Keller.

I am also very well aware that Pat Robertson has predicted President Bush will win in a landslide. The fact is, on November 9th, either Pat Robertson or Bill Keller will be wrong. I have clearly stated in the past that the penalty for a false prophet is to be stoned to death. I support that standard and am willing, I wonder if Pat is. Like most who say they hear from God and have been wrong, Pat has always found an excuse why he was wrong and just keeps on going. The fact is, God is NEVER WRONG. One of us is a false prophet! I will make NO EXCUSES.”

Nah, he just hoped that no one would remember. He’s still lying and still begging for money, like all wannabee televangelists.  Congrats, Bill, you are just like Joel Osteen with your failure.

 

Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – Excuses Excuses

A sigh of relief on this end.  At least a little reprieve from lunatics who want to have a theocracy.  We can take more steps on keeping the US a beacon of freedom and equality for *all*, not a self-chosen few.  Now, Obama, you’ve done a lot but you still have more to do. Close Gitmo, and stop allowing spying on citizens. And get a coherent infrastructure plan in place, for all of our sakes. 

Now, I’m sure that the excuses are running fast and furious on why “God’s Own Party” lost and indeed lost so badly in some states like my own, Pennsylvania.  

What are the usual excuses when prayers fail?  Because I know prayers were flying fast and furious last night from *both* sides.  The prophecies were flying fast too.  The below can also be excuses for their failure. 

1.  God wanted something different to happen for some mysterious reason.

 Which would make any prayer at any time totally worthless.

2.  Satan was more powerful. (a broader variant on my initial prophecy “The Mormon and Roman Catholic are at fault.) 

Not much of a god then is it? 

3.  God isn’t some “vending machine”

 Tell that to the people praying for parking spaces, candidates, football teams, etc. 

4. God wants to “teach” us something by making someone suffer (a reason offered for #1).

 God sure likes collateral damage. 

5.  God didn’t *really* care so he left this one decision up to humans.

The cherry picking approach, that this god picks and chooses when to interfere, always dependent upon coincidence.  

And…. What are the usual excuses when boatloads of money fail to buy elections?

 1. There was some type of conspiracy.

 2. And see 1-5 above.

 Hmmm, I wonder if the folks who practice Judaism will be declared part of the conspiracy or standing valiantly against it.  I’m guessing we’ll be able to find both on the internet tubes.

Much fun to still be had.  Stay tuned.