Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – quote mining by Christians

As is my habit, I look at various posts on WordPress with the words “atheist” and “atheism” to see what the chatter out there is like. Most post are by Christians who are very afraid of us atheists. To the point they choose to lie to support their fear. They try so hard to make believe that all atheists are nihilists to drive people into their imaginary god’s arms.

Fair warning, this post is long since the truth takes more time and space than lies.

In this episode, we have Christians, Presbyterians like I used to be, intentionally misrepresenting quotes from atheists. Let’s compare what they have with the real quote in context and with what Christianity says about humans.

“What do atheists think about the universe and our little race of advanced primates?

Hear them speak: “The human race is not special.”– Geoff Dawson, opinion piece, ABC news (Australia)”

This comes from this article here.  Now, what we can read from the actual article is:

We’re not special

As human beings, we need to remind ourselves that we are oxygen-breathing biped mammals.

In other words, we are animals. Evolutionary science demonstrates that we are continuous, not discontinuous, with other animal species

If one’s view of the world is based on science, we are not special, we were not placed here by a God to be the custodians of the Earth (and if we were, we have let the Almighty down big time!) and like all other species, we will have our place in the sun. The myth that we are somehow special and will continue to live forever as a dominant species is based on a deluded human-centric form of existential narcissism.”

It goes on to say how great it is that we are indeed humans, even if we aren’t “special”.

When we embrace the end, our lives are more vibrant

This means the adults learning to calm themselves in the face of their own inevitable mortality. The practice of mindfulness and the contemplation of one’s own death is one beneficial way to do this.

When we embrace the end, our lives are more vibrant

This means the adults learning to calm themselves in the face of their own inevitable mortality. The practice of mindfulness and the contemplation of one’s own death is one beneficial way to do this.”

Now, let’s look at what the bible says about humans.

“We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a menstrual rags.
We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.” – Isaiah 64. 

This is the same nonsense we see in the NT where we’re told that humans are dogs unless they worship the Christian god. The bible ends where this god murders all non-christians and then works with Satan to corrupt the Christians that are left (Revelation 19-21) That’s quite a god that the Christians have, not caring about humans at all unless they constantly praise it.

“The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.”

– Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden”

Unsurprisingly, this is taken out of context. This is what comes before:

“Theologians worry away at the “problem of evil” and a related “problem of suffering”. On the say I originally wrote this paragraph, the British newspaper all carried a terrible story about a bus full of children from a Roman Catholics school that crashed for no obvious reasons, with wholesale loss of life. Not for the first time, clerics were in paroxysm over the theological question that a writer on a London newspaper (The Sunday Telegraph) framed this way “How can you believe in a loving all-powerful God who allows such a tragedy?” The article went on to quote one priest’s reply “The simple answer is we do not know why there should be a God who lets these awful things happen. But the horror of the crash, to a Christian, confirms the fact that we live in a world of real values: positive and negative. If the universe was just electrons, there would be no problem of evil or suffering.
On the contrary, if the universe were just electrons and selfish genes, meaningless tragedies like the crashing of this bus are exactly what we should expect, along with equally meaningless good fortune. Such a universe would be neither evil or good in intention. It would manifest no intentions of any kind. In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, anhyou don’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference. As that unhappy poet A.E. Housman put it: “For Nature, heartless, witless Nature, will neither know or care.” DNA neither knows or cares. DNA just is. And we dance to its music.”

This is what Dawkins does believe in

My own view, frequently expressed (for example in the The Selfish Gene and especially in the title chapter of A Devil’s Chaplain) is that there are two reasons why we need to take Darwinian natural selection seriously. Firstly, it is the most important element in the explanation for our own existence and that of all life. Secondly, natural selection is a good object lesson in how NOT to organize a society. As I have often said before, as a scientist I am a passionate Darwinian. But as a citizen and a human being, I want to construct a society which is about as un-Darwinian as we can make it. I approve of looking after the poor (very un-Darwinian). I approve of universal medical care (very un-Darwinian). It is one of the classic philosophical fallacies to derive an ‘ought’ from an ‘is’. Stein (or whoever wrote his script for him) is implying that Hitler committed that fallacy with respect to Darwinism. If we look at more recent history, the closest representatives you’ll find to Darwinian politics are uncompassionate conservatives like Margaret Thatcher, George W Bush, or Ben Stein’s own hero, Richard Nixon. Maybe all these people, along with the Social Darwinists from Herbert Spencer to John D Rockefeller, committed the is/ought fallacy and justified their unpleasant social views by invoking garbled Darwinism. Anyone who thinks that has any bearing whatsoever on the truth or falsity of Darwin’s theory of evolution is either an unreasoning fool or a cynical manipulator of unreasoning fools. I will not speculate as to which category includes Ben Stein and Mark Mathis.” – Dawkins website forum, 2008

Here we go again from the presbyterian church website:

“Life on Earth doesn’t arise in fulfillment of a grand scheme, but rather as a byproduct of the increase of entropy in an environment very far from equilibrium.  Our impressive brains don’t develop because life is guided toward greater levels of complexity and intelligence, but from the mechanical interactions between genes, organisms, and their surroundings.

None of which is to say that life is devoid of purpose and meaning. Only that these are things we create, not things we discover out there in the fundamental architecture of the world.”

– Sean Carroll, from a blog post The Pointless Universe

My bold. Again, the scary atheists are acknowledging that our lives have purpose and meaning. And we are daring to say to theists that they and their god aren’t needed for this at all.

“That Man is the product of causes that had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve individual life beyond the grave. . . . Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair, can the soul’s habitation henceforth be safely built.”

– Bertrand Russell, A Free Man’s Worship (1903)

Again, beware when a Christian uses ellipses and doesn’t present in context.

To Dr. Faustus in his study Mephistopheles told the history of the Creation, saying: “The endless praises of the choirs of angels had begun to grow wearisome; for, after all, did he not deserve their praise? Had he not given them endless joy? Would it not be more amusing to obtain undeserved praise, to be worshipped by beings whom he tortured? 

He smiled inwardly, and resolved that the great drama should be performed. “For countless ages the hot nebula whirled aimlessly through space. At length it began to take shape, the central mass threw off planets, the planets cooled, boiling seas and burning mountains heaved and tossed, from black masses of cloud hot sheets of rain deluged the barely solid crust. And now the first germ of life grew in the depths of the ocean, and developed rapidly in the fructifying warmth into vast forest trees, huge ferns springing from the damp mould, sea monsters breeding, fighting, devouring, and passing away.  nd from the monsters, as the play unfolded itself, Man was born, with the power of thought, the knowledge of good and evil, and the cruel thirst for worship.

And Man saw that all is passing in this mad, monstrous world, that all is struggling to snatch, at any cost, a few brief moments of life before Death’s inexorable decree. And Man said: `There is a hidden purpose, could we but fathom it, and the purpose is good; for we must reverence something, and in the visible world there is nothing worthy of reverence.’ And Man stood aside from the struggle, resolving that God intended harmony to come out of chagos by human efforts. And when he followed the instincts which God had transmitted to him from his ancestry of beasts of prey, he called it Sin, and asked  od to forgive him. But he doubted whether he could be justly forgiven, until he invented a divine Plan by which God’s wrath was to have been appeased. And seeing the present was bad, he made it yet worse, that thereby the future might be better. And he gave God thanks for the strength that enabled him to forgo even the joys that were possible. And God smiled; and when he saw that Man had become perfect in renunciation and worship, he sent another sun through the sky, which crashed into Man’s sun; and all returned again to nebula.  

“`Yes,’ he murmured, `it was a good play; I will have it performed again.'”


Such, in outline, but even more purposeless, more void of meaning, is the world
which Science presents for our belief. Amid such a world, if anywhere, our ideals henceforward must find a home. That Man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of  atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; that all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the whole temple of Man’s achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins–all these things, if  not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain, that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand. Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair, can the soul’s habitation henceforth be safely built. 


How, in such an alien and inhuman world, can so powerless a creature as Man preserve his aspirations untarnished? A strange mystery it is that Nature, omnipotent but blind, in the revolutions of her secular hurryings through the abysses of space, has brought forth at last a child, subject still to her power, but gifted with sight, with knowledge of good and evil, with the capacity of judging all the works of his unthinking Mother. In spite of Death, the mark and seal of the parental control, Man is yet free, during his brief years, to examine, to criticise, to know, and in imagination to create. To him alone, in the  world with which he is acquainted, this freedom belongs; and in this lies his superiority to the resistless forces that control his outward life. The savage, like ourselves, feels the oppression of his impotence before the powers of  Nature; but having in himself nothing that he respects more than Power, he is willing to prostrate himself before his gods, without inquiring whether they are worthy of his worship. Pathetic and very terrible is the long history of cruelty and torture, of  degradation and human sacrifice, endured in the hope of placating the jealous gods: surely, the trembling believer thinks, when what is most precious has been freely given, their lust for blood must be appeased, and more will not be required. The religion of Moloch–as such creeds may be generically called–is in essence the cringing submission of the slave, who dare not, even in his heart, allow the thought that his master deserves no adulation. Since the independence of ideals is not yet acknowledged, Power may be freely worshipped, and receive an unlimited respect, despite its wanton infliction of pain.

But gradually, as morality grows bolder, the claim of the ideal world begins to be felt; and worship, if it is not to cease, must be given to gods of another kind than those created by the savage. Some, though they feel the demands of the ideal, will still consciously reject them, still urging that naked Power is worthy of worship. Such is the attitude inculcated in God’s answer to Job out of the whirlwind: the divine power and knowledge are paraded, but of the divine goodness there is no hint. Such also is the attitude of those who, in our own day, base their morality upon the struggle for survival, maintaining that the survivors are necessarily the fittest. But others, not content with an answer so repugnant to the moral sense, will adopt the position which we have become accustomed to regard as specially religious, maintaining that, in some hidden manner, the world of fact is really harmonious with the world of ideals. Thus Man creates God, all-powerful and all-good, the mystic unity of what is and what should be.

But the world of fact, after all, is not good; and, in submitting our judgment to it, there is an element of slavishness from which our thoughts must be purged. For in all things it is well to exalt the dignity of Man, by freeing him as far as possible from the tyranny of non-human Power. When we have realised that Power is largely bad, that man, with his knowledge of good and evil, is but a helpless atom in a world which has no such knowledge, the choice is again presented to us: Shall we worship Force, or shall we worship Goodness? Shall our God exist and be evil, or shall he be recognised as the creation of our own conscience?

Read the rest of the essay it’s worth it (link to all of it is at the end of the quote below). The essay ends with this

“United with his fellow-men by the strongest of all ties, the tie of a common doom, the free man finds that a new vision is with him always, shedding over every daily task the light of love. The life of Man is a long march through the night, surrounded by invisible foes, tortured by weariness and pain, towards a goal that few can hope to reach, and where none may tarry long. One by one, as they march, our comrades vanish from our sight, seized by the silent orders of omnipotent Death. Very brief is the time in which we can help them, in which their happiness or misery is decided. Be it ours to shed sunshine on their path, to lighten their sorrows by the balm of sympathy, to give them the pure joy of a never-tiring affection, to strengthen failing courage, to instill faith in hours of despair. Let us not weigh in grudging scales their merits and demerits, but let us think only of their need–of the sorrows, the difficulties, perhaps the blindnesses, that make the misery of their lives; let us remember that they are fellow-sufferers in the same darkness, actors in the same tragedy as ourselves. And so, when their day is over, when their good and their evil have become eternal by the immortality of the past, be it ours to feel that, where they suffered, where they failed, no deed of ours was the cause; but wherever a spark of the divine fire kindled in their hearts, we were ready with encouragement, with sympathy, with brave words in which high courage glowed.

Brief and powerless is Man’s life; on him and all his race the slow, sure doom falls pitiless and dark. Blind to good and evil, reckless of destruction,  omnipotent matter rolls on its relentless way; for Man, condemned to-day to lose his dearest, to-morrow himself to pass through the gate of darkness, it remains only to cherish, ere yet the blow falls, the lofty thoughts that ennoble his little day; disdaining the coward terrors of the slave of Fate, to worship at the shrine that his own hands have built; undismayed by the empire of chance, to preserve a mind free from the wanton tyranny that rules his outward life; proudly defiant of the irresistible forces that tolerate, for a moment, his knowledge and his condemnation, to sustain alone, a weary but unyielding Atlas, the world that his own ideals have fashioned despite the trampling march of unconscious power.” – A Free man’s Worship

The Christians have been found wanting again with their false claims.

“The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless.”

– Steven Weinberg (Physicist)

What we Dr. Weinberg says in context:

“I believe that there is no point in the universe that can be discovered by the methods of science. I believe that what we have found so far, an impersonal universe in which it is not particularly directed toward human beings is what we are going to continue to find. And that when we find the ultimate laws of nature they will have a chilling, cold impersonal quality about them.

I don’t think this means [however] there’s no point to life. Usually the remark is quoted just as it stands. But if anyone read the next paragraph, they would see that I went on to say that if there is no point in the universe that we discover by the methods of science, there is a point that we can give the universe by the way we live, by loving each other, by discovering things about nature, by creating works of art. And that — in a way, although we are not the stars in a cosmic drama, if the only drama we’re starring in is one that we are making up as we go along, it is not entirely ignoble that faced with this unloving, impersonal universe we make a little island of warmth and love and science and art for ourselves. That’s not an entirely despicable role for us to play.” – PBS “Faith and Reason”

“When it comes to causal significance, it seems hard to deny that any individual, no matter how important they are in human history, will be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. We only have influence over a microscopically tiny blip of space-time, after all.”

– Nick Hughes

What the whole quote is (the above is not the quote which could have been so easily cut and pasted correctly) What was intentionally left out is in bold.

Is an individual’s life insignificant in the great scheme of things?

Nick Hughes: “When it comes to causal significance, it seems hard to deny that any individual, no matter how important they are in human history, will be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. We only have influence over a microscopically tiny blip of space-time, after all. But when it comes to value, humanity may be significant even in the grand scheme of things.Nick Hughes Irish Times.

 

“There you have it, folks.If God does not exist, and if there are no supernatural realities, don’t worry: nothing ultimately matters. You are here for no particular reason. For no particular purpose. You have no objective value. Your life has no particular end goal in mind. You’re a blip, so create some meaning for yourself until it’s all over.As the good book says “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.” (1 Corinthians 15:32; NIV)
Nothing ultimately means anything. Why?
No reason.”

Yep, there you have it, folks. Christians make false claims for their benefit. They lie. Nice to see that they ignore their bible when convenient. Our Christians want to quote this “If with merely human hopes I fought with wild animals at Ephesus, what would I have gained by it? If the dead are not raised,“Let us eat and drink,  for tomorrow we die.”

For they think they have no reason to exist without their god. That’s a shame.

18 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – quote mining by Christians

  1. If you have to quote a passge out of context to support your argument, your argument has no merit.

    AKA a damn lie.

    For your last line, I would say it’s more they are so sure an atheists life has no merit as they are without the baggage of a god. They generally tend to think they are just so special because they have an invisible friend…

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  2. Damn, this was a library of goodness.

    As novelist, essayist, playwright and poet James Arthur Baldwin once said:

    “I cannot be a pessimist because I am alive. To be a pessimist means that you have agreed that human life is an academic matter, so I’m forced to be an optimist. I’m forced to believe that we can survive whatever we must survive.”

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  3. Maybe they are not lying, but simply unable to acknowledge or comprehend any parcel of information outside their faith bubble? This level of bias is inconceivable without faith.
    “A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand”—Bertrand Russell

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      1. They are obsessed with unbelief. They quote atheism more than atheists do. Eventually they will become what they despise (maybe they already have) which is the nature of all mass movements. They may not become atheists, but they’ve become what they think atheists are.

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  4. Hey there,

    I’d like to share some extremely significant information that has been going throughout the internet relating to our future well being.

    We’re approaching a future of a one world cashless money society in which they will mandate us to have an RFID chip inserted in our body. This microchip will hold our data and we will lose our privacy because of the tracking potential.

    Even bigger news, did you know that this was foretold about two-thousand years ago by a major historical figure named Jesus? Have doubts? Keep reading… This could be the most important thing you will read.

    ..”And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six” (Revelation 13:16-18 BRG)….

    Referring to the last days, this can only be speaking of a cashless money society, which has yet to occur, but we are heading towards. Why’s that? Because we would be able to buy or sell without receiving the mark among each other if tangible currency was still around. It logically deduces itself to this end.

    The mark can’t be spiritual, because the word references two unique physical locations. If it was spiritual, the text would only conclude one place.

    Here is where it really ties together. It is astonishing how specific the word of God is in regards to this RFID chip. Here are some notes from a guy named Carl Sanders who worked with a squad of engineers to help produce this RFID chip in the 90’s.

    Mr. Carl Sanders sat in 17 New World Order conferences with heads of state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to talk about plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The US government commissioned Carl Sanders to invent a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world-a microchip that would be inserted underneath the skin with a hypodermic needle(a quick, convenient process that would be gradually received by the people).

    Mr. Sanders, along with a crew of engineers behind him, with US grant monies provided by US tax dollars, took on this project and engineered a RFID microchip that’s powered by a lithium battery, rechargeable by the temperature changes in our skin. Without having understanding of the Bible (Brother Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these men spent one-and-a-half-million dollars conduction research on the best and most convenient place to have the RFID microchip inserted below the skin.

    Guess what? These researchers found that the forehead and the back of the hand(the two places Revelation says the mark will be received) aren’t only the most convenient spots, but are also the only viable places for constant, consistent temperature changes inside the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The RFID microchip is approximately 7 millimeters in length, .75 millimeters in diameter, about the dimensions of a grain of rice. It’s capable of storing pages upon pages of data you. All your basic data, work history, crime records, health data, and financial information may be saved on this chip.

    Brother Sanders believes that this RFID microchip, which he regretfully helped design, is the “mark” described in Revelation 13:16-18. The original Greek word for “mark” is “charagma,” which is defined as a “scratch or etching.” It’s also fascinating to be aware that the number 666 is a word in the original Greek language. That word is “chi xi stigma,” with the end part, “stigma,” also meaning “to stick or prick. Carl believes this is alluding to the use of a hypodermic needle being poked into the human flesh to insert the microchip.”

    Brother Sanders asked a doctor what would take place if the lithium contained inside the RFID microchip leaked into the human body. The doctor responded by saying a terrible sore would appear in that spot. This is what the scriptures of Revelation 16:2 has to say:

    “So the first angel poured his bowl on the earth, and a nasty and terrible sore appeared on the people who had the beast’s mark and worshipped its image” (Revelation 16:2 CEB).

    The Bible tells us that we cannot buy or sell without receiving the mark, or the number of its name. This number is identified as 666. The scriptures tell us to calculate the number 666. How do we calculate 666?

    This is where it gets really interesting. Calculating the number 666 has been long debated throughout the history of the world, but has now been unveiled in these final times by the revelation of God. What you will see confirms itself with the holy scriptures the real meaning to count 666.

    Throughout the Bible, God uses the number 3 as confirmation of things. Here are a few examples:

    “For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one” (1 John 5:7 NKJV).

    “and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:4 NKJV).

    “…Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!” (Revelation 4:8 NKJV).

    What is interesting is the the mark is revealed in detail in 3 separate verses (Revelation 13:16,17,18), and each verse lists three different examples of the given topic. The last three being the number six used 3 times in a row. Here is a key point to unlocking how to count the number 666.

    What does it mean to count the number of the beast, 666? It means to add up. So how could we add up 666? Remember my prior key point about God confirming in 3’s. So logically, what would be the most reasonable way to count the number 666? To count it equally in threes based off the number. It is not reasonable to count it equally as 600+60+6, this would also take us back to the beginning. We are not able to count it as 600+600+600, or 60+60+60, because there are no zeroes in between or at the end of 666. The only reasonable explanation we are left with is 6+6+6=18. What is interesting is that the verse that reveals for us to count the number itself is verse 18, being the 3rd verse out of 3 verses that describe the mark of the beast. Now what is 18 divided by 3? 6. So 3×6=18, or 6+6+6=18.

    Another fascinating point is that the two other combinations (bringing a combined total of 3 possible combinations) for moving the plus symbol in between the 6’s are 66+6=72, and 6+66=72. Count up both 72’s together and you get 144. Why the number 144 is interesting is because the verse following Revelation 13:18 is the first time in the Holy Bible where the 144,000 are being mentioned in detail:

    “Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads…” (Revelation 14:1).

    If we add up all 3 numbers by counting 666 by moving the plus symbol around in all 3 possible combinations, it would be 72+72+18=162. What is fascinating about the number 162, is, if you divide 144,000 by 162, you get 888. The name for Jesus in Greek gematria adds up to 888. The New Testament was originally written in Greek. Revelation 14:1 not only mentions the 144,000, but also the Lamb being Jesus Christ.

    Now what is fascinating about the number for Jesus, 888, is that if you apply this same formula, you get 8+8+8=24. Why the number 24? Revelation chapter 4 tells us there are 24 elders seated around the throne of God. This is the same throne where Jesus sits:

    “Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads” (Revelation 4:2-4).

    Now if you take 8+8+8=24, and 8+88=96, and 88+8=96, you get 24+96+96=216. Take 144,000 divided by 216 and you get 666. Keep in mind that this was the exact formulation to get the number 162 out of counting 666 that brought about the number 888 when dividing 144,000 by 162. It is perpetual.

    With making use of the same formulation of counting by adding the “+” symbol in between the numbers, why do all these numbers relate in such a manner?

    Yet another fascinating point to note is that if you add up all the numbers from 1 to 36, it totals 666. The number 36, as in three sixes? Might this be a sign that we must add up three sixes rather than perceiving the number as six-hundred sixty six?

    So what may this suggest? We know in this world we’re recognized by numbers in various forms. Starting from our birth certificate to social security, as well as our drivers license, being identified based on a system of ruler ship. So it’s conceivable that this RFID chip will include a brand new identification that has a complete total of 18 characters.

    Might this be the identification of the beast, the number of its name? The one-world beast system that’s identified by 18 characters? This might fit the scriptures that speaks of a mark that we ought to have to buy or sell in our right-hand or forehead, and that it also incorporates the number of the beast, in the course of a future cashless money society.

    Go to: https://biblefreedom.com to see all the proof!

    The Bible warns us in the end times that a false prophet will stand up performing miracles to deceive many to acquire this mark:

    “Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image” (Revelation 19:20).

    Whatever it takes, DO NOT RECEIVE IT!

    “Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name” (Revelation 14:9-11).

    We’re residing in very prophetic times with very important Biblical prophecies coming to pass. When Donald Trump acknowledged Jerusalem as capital of Israel in December of 2017, this was a large step to bring forth the Third Temple foretold in the the scriptures.

    God’s word tells us that the Antichrist will seat himself in this temple:

    “…and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4).

    In the Islamic faith, there is a person called the Mahdi, referred to as their messiah who they are waiting to appear. There are a number of testimonies from people on-line who consider this man will be Barack Obama who is to be the biblical Antichrist. I personally have had strange dreams about Barack. He got on stage claiming to be a follower of Christ with no affiliation to the Muslim religion, however it was later revealed by his family that he certainly is a faithful Muslim.

    His real name is said to be Barry Soetoro, and he had his name changed to Barack Obama. Why so?

    Jesus says, “And He said to them, ‘I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven'” (Luke 10:18).

    In Hebrew, the word “Barack” means “lighting”, and the usage of “Bama” (Strongs Hebrew word 1116) is used to mean the “heights” of heaven.

    The day after the election of Barack Obama (11/04/08), the triumphing select three lotto numbers in Illinois (Obama’s domestic state) for 11/5/08 were 666.

    Obama use to be a U.S. senator for Illinois, and his zip code was 60606.

    Regardless, whomsoever seats themselves in the future Third Temple in Jerusalem, declaring himself to be God WILL BE THE ANTICHRIST. DO NOT BE DECEIVED.

    So, why do we need Jesus?

    “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 2:23).

    “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23).

    Our own works cannot save us from our sins. If we step in front of a judge in the court of law, being responsible for committing a crime, the judge won’t judge us by the good that we’ve carried out, but rather the crimes we’ve committed. If we as fallen humanity, created in God’s image, pose this type of moral justice, how much more a perfect, righteous, and Holy creator?

    God has brought down to us His moral law’s through the 10 commandments given to Moses at Mt. Siani. These laws were not given so we may be justified, however in order that we could see the need for a savior. They are the mirror of God’s character of what He has put in each and every one of us, with our conscious bearing witness that we all know that it’s wrong to steal, lie, dishonor our dad and mom, and so forth.

    We may try to follow all the ethical guidelines of the 10 commandments, but we will never catch up to them to be justified before a Holy God. That same word of the law received by Moses was brought forth as flesh over 2000 years ago inside the body of Jesus Christ. He came to be our justification by perfectly fulfilling the law, living a sinless life that solely God may fulfill.

    The distance between us and the law can by no means be reconciled by our own personal merit, however the arm of Jesus is stretched out by the grace and mercy of God. And if we’re to grab on, through faith in Him, He’ll pull us up being the one to justify us. As inside the court of law, if somebody steps in and pays your debt, despite the fact that you’re guilty, the judge can do what’s legal and just and set you free. This is what Jesus did almost 2000 years ago on the cross. It was a legal transaction being fulfilled in the spiritual realm by the shedding of His blood, with His final words being, “…It is finished!…” (John 19:30).

    So why did Jesus have to die for us?

    Because God is Holy and just, the wrath that belongs to us could not be brushed away. Because of the perfect righteousness and justice of God’s character, it must be dealt with, it ought to be quenched and satisfied.

    For God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked (Ezekiel 18:23). This is why in Isaiah chapter 53, the place it speaks of the coming Messiah and His soul being a sacrifice for our sins, why it says it satisfied God to crush His only begotten Son.

    This is because the wrath that we deserve was justified by being poured out upon His Son. For if it was poured out upon us deserve it, we’d all die and go to hell. God created a way of escape by pouring it out on His Son who’s soul could not stay in Hades, but was raised and seated on the right hand of God in power.

    Now after we put on the Lord Jesus Christ (Romans 13:14), God no longer see’s the individual who deserves His wrath, but the glorious image of His perfect Son dwelling in us, justifying us as if we obtained the wrath we deserve, making a way of escape from the curse of death.

    Now what we must do is repent and trust in the saviour, confessing and forsaking our sins. That is not only a head knowledge of believing in Jesus, howeverrather receiving His words, taking them to heart. In which we no longer live to exercise sin, but turn away from our sins and exercise righteousness:

    “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11).

    By doing so we will become transformed into the image of God through faith in His Son Christ Jesus Who is inclined to present the Holy Spirit to whoever ask of Him:

    “Most assuredly, I(Jesus) say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ (John 3:5-6).

    “But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His” (Romans 8:9).

    Now what are you waiting for? Our Father in heaven only wants the best for us, restoring every thing this world has stolen from us. That is what it means to be “holy”. To be made whole.

    He’s ready to hear from you. That God given tongue to speak language, by using faith, pray to Him, ask Him to forgive you by confessing to Him your sins and be willing to forsake them; that you accept the sacrifice of His Son Jesus on the cross, and that you want His Holy Spirit residing inside you transforming you into a child of God.

    Jesus says, “but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him(the Holy Spirit) will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”

    Did you know that Jesus spoke more about hell than any one else in the Bible, even more than He spoke about heaven?! For this very purpose He was brought forth to die for us, to deliver us from this place that we deserve.

    He describes hell as a actual place where,

    “Their worm does not die
    And the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44).

    And where,

    “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth…” (Luke 13:28).

    Jesus tells us who to fear,

    “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matthew 10:28).

    “Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.’

    Then He who sat on the throne said, ‘Behold, I make all things new.’ And He said to me, ‘Write, for these words are true and faithful.’

    And He said to me, ‘It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely to him who thirsts. He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.'” (Revelation 21:1-8).

    Out of all the world religions, how can we make certain the Bible got it all right? The scientific information has established and continues to support that the universe once had a beginning wherein space, time and matter were created. Many know this as the big bang.

    “The non-biblical religions tell us that god or god’s create within space and time that eternally exist. The Bible stands alone and says that time and space don’t exist until God creates the universe.” – Astronomer(Phd) Hugh Ross

    The Bible not only got it right that space, time and matter all came into existence at the beginning of the universe, it additionally states in 7 different scriptures that the universe is in a continuous state of expansion 1000’s of years earlier than scientists discovered this information.

    Did you know that the real Noah’s Ark was discovered where the Bible told us it’d be with the right dimensions? As well as proof for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the Exodus event of the Red Sea crossing?

    The Bible is the most translated and read book in the history of the world, full of predictive prophecies, matching what we discover within the book of nature. Would not you assume God’s word to be so?

    This info and more can all be found here: https://biblefreedom.com

    God loves you!

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    1. I found the above in spam. It is such complete and utter bullshit. We see the usual lies of Christians repeated.

      “Did you know that the real Noah’s Ark was discovered where the Bible told us it’d be with the right dimensions? As well as proof for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the Exodus event of the Red Sea crossing?”

      None of this exists. It is a thoughtless lie.

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