Let us consider the pig. Actually, let us consider 2000 pigs somewhere in Palestine, supposedly a couple of thousand years ago.
“5 They came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gerasenes 2 And when he had stepped out of the boat, immediately a man out of the tombs with an unclean spirit met him. 3 He lived among the tombs; and no one could restrain him any more, even with a chain; 4 for he had often been restrained with shackles and chains, but the chains he wrenched apart, and the shackles he broke in pieces; and no one had the strength to subdue him. 5 Night and day among the tombs and on the mountains he was always howling and bruising himself with stones. 6 When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and bowed down before him; 7 and he shouted at the top of his voice, “What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I adjure you by God, do not torment me.” 8 For he had said to him, “Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!” 9 Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” He replied, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” 10 He begged him earnestly not to send them out of the country. 11 Now there on the hillside a great herd of swine was feeding; 12 and the unclean spirits[c] begged him, “Send us into the swine; let us enter them.” 13 So he gave them permission. And the unclean spirits came out and entered the swine; and the herd, numbering about two thousand, rushed down the steep bank into the sea, and were drowned in the sea.
14 The swineherds ran off and told it in the city and in the country. Then people came to see what it was that had happened. 15 They came to Jesus and saw the demoniac sitting there, clothed and in his right mind, the very man who had had the legion; and they were afraid. 16 Those who had seen what had happened to the demoniac and to the swine reported it. 17 Then they began to beg Jesus to leave their neighborhood.” Mark 5 NRSV
The more popular versions say “13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea” KJV
So we have 2000 pigs somewhere in Palestine. It rather obviously wasn’t a Jewish community that JC was wandering around in. Gadara is a town in what is Jordan currently. It has cliffs for pigs to plummet from but that’s about it. It seems like a rather nice town. And if it had 2000 pigs feeding it, then it certainly would want an idiot who put demons into them and then drowned them to leave.
As usual, we see just how impotent Jesus aka God aka Dad is against demons or chief demon, Satan.
The bible repeatedly says that the message from JC was only for the Jews.
“24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help me.” 26 He answered, “It is not fair to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.” 27 She said, “Yes, Lord, yet even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” 28 Then Jesus answered her, “Woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed instantly.” So why was this character here?
well, because the bible and its books are made up by different people who wanted to make up different things, just like Christians now. These were written long after the supposed events and the audience was thinning. Jews didn’t believe in a messiah who failed in fulfilling the prophecies, so Christians had to find other people to convert.
So we have grudging Christians finding a new audience. “19 Now those who were scattered because of the persecution that took place over Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus, and Antioch, and they spoke the word to no one except Jews. 20 But among them were some men of Cyprus and Cyrene who, on coming to Antioch, spoke to the Hellenists also, proclaiming the Lord Jesus.” Acts 11
Funny how a Jewish messiah has become something else invented by humans who need external validation and need *anyone* to agree with them. This is typical of any cult.
Oh,let it be know that 2000 pigs is about the size of a CAFO (concentrated animal feeding operation)
6 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – let us consider the pig”
I am often amazed people buy these ridiculous fables. Lock, stock, and barrel. No questions asked.
I can see them now, all nodding, amen-ing, and thinking “yeah, that makes sense.”
It is a thing to behold.
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yep. This post was inspired by some idiots on youtube. a certain twit insisted that JC was being “kind” to the demons. I asked her how the fuck that worked if this god wouldn’t destroy demons that were screwing around, but had to be “kind” and then drown animals.
of course that shut her down.
Ah…also, if memory serves, a legion (as defined by the Romans) was 10,000 men. A sizable number in any circumstances. So I guess that the ‘legion’ of demons was actually only about the size of a regiment.
Of course if someone came along and drowned all of my pigs, I wouldn’t want the fella responsible to remain in my town, either! Yes, he cured the wild man, but he also stripped who-knows-how-many folks of their livelihood. Is this the way the Co-Ruler of the Universe works?!
actually a legion is around 4000 – 5000. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zwmpfg8/articles/zqbnfg8#:~:text=At%20its%20largest%2C%20there%20might,80%20men%20called%20%27centuries%27. This number comes out in the fishes/loaves story, with that many men, plus women and children, following around JC through Roman-occupied Palestine. You’d think that this would be noticed 🙂
Cursing the fig tree is still more bizarre.
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true. Jesus comes off as addled with his antics.
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