Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – A Christian prays for a miracle for me

So, last post was about Jon over at nonviolentchristians. He has now claimed the following:

ClubSchadenfreude said, “not up to us to disprove miracles. It is up to you to show that they do occur. Unsurprisingly, you can’t.”

I have experienced miracles. I know they are real.

One scientific survey conducted by Barna Research found that “67% of Americans believe miracles are possible, but among well educated medical doctors 75% believe miracles are possible. 55% of US physicians have seen results in their patients that they would consider miraculous.”

I think that even meets David Hume’s stringent requirements for considering miracles real.

I will say a prayer asking God to show you a miracle, even you can believe.”

hmm, no miracle yet. And this despite his god’s promise that all prayers from real Christians will be answered with what is asked for, no exceptions or excuses, and answered quickly. Now, what is Jon’s problem?

There’s also no quote from Barna as he cited. I’m waiting for him to either admit that or give a source.

9 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – A Christian prays for a miracle for me

  1. This is a great example of beliefs verified by popular demand. “Two billion people believe in a god! Can 2,000,000,000 be wrong?” Ah….yeah, they came be and have been many, many times before. It is all nonsense. For every time they can tell us that their prayers were answered we can show them 1,000,000 times they were not. You can not determine the veracity of miracles – which MUST include the suspension of the Laws of Nature in order to even be remotely considered as such – by popular opinion. Most Americans couldn’t find their ass with two hands let alone determine whether or not a delusion or experiences could be considered a miracle. This is just the kind of magical thinking that keeps them from being taken seriously.

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  2. I’m not sure if read the beginning of this discussion with Jon, but when people today use the word miracle, they may mean “an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs.” Or they may mean, “an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment.”
    People who believe in the latter may not accept the former. But believers in the former can easily accept the latter.
    It’s football season again. Time to start thanking God for the miracle of the touchdown. 🙂

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  3. I’ve spoken to believers who assure me that their god totally works miracles. But when I ask them to ask their god what my personal passcode is, and start their next answer back to me with it, they’ll protest that god doesn’t work like that. When I point out that as far as I can tell their god doesn’t do anything at all, they usually quickly try to change the subject.

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    1. yep, amazing how those that claim “miracles” never can get poor ol’ god to produce one, when that would go a long way to convincing me that this sill god existed, and per the christian, this god will do “anything” to get my belief.

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