Here’s yet another failed apologist who is quite sure he’s the “sophisticated theologian” aka a christian who looks down on other christians, when they need to feel special. Nothing much new other than the memes at the end.
“Generally, the “Christian” church member has not been taught anything of real substance, so he or she is totally unequipped to answer these types of challenges. Actually, he or she might eventually wind up aligning with skeptics to echo these inquiries!
Saints, let us contemplate this as mature Bible students, going through much trouble in search for answers….”
ROFL. Unsurprisingly, Shawn is a failure as the “christian ambassador” he claims to be. His “mature” Christianity is no more true than the christianity (in truth, Paulianity) that his fellow christians have. It’s so sweet that he thinks he’s a “saint”, and has the only right version of this cult.
“Firstly (mark it well!), the LORD God did not create robots or machines, people who automatically follow His will and do right. If He did, the cry would surely be heard, “God is such a tyrant for not letting me do or believe what I want!” Therefore, He gave us liberty to choose right or choose wrong. If we choose wrong, then we portray the situation as follows: “I did nothing wrong, so it is God’s fault for letting me face the consequences of my poor choices.””
Alas, his bible says otherwise, since both Jesus and Paul say no free will, Matthew 13 and Romans 9.
“Secondly (and we dare not forget this either!), JEHOVAH God did not leave Himself without witness (Acts 14:15-17; Acts 17:24-31; Romans 1:18-25; Romans 2:14,15). If we choose right, we realize Bibles are everywhere: we do have access to the Word of God and can know the will of God. We recognize the fact everyone has some sense of right and wrong (conscience). Even the most primitive cultures in the most remote regions have a code of conduct. The very existence of a creation demands a Creator—so if we question if God is there, we are only showing we have not been honest with the evidence. If we are grateful for the light we have, responding positively to the evidence we can identify, God will give us more light and we will see more evidence. If we are unthankful for what evidence we have, however, our vulnerability to a darkened heart is guaranteed (Romans 1:19-32).”
Yep, same thing most, if not all, cults try to claim, that reality is evidence for their particular imaginary friend. Curious how poor Shawn can’t do what his supposed messiah promises. Per his own bible, he’s just one more fraud.
Club Schadenfreude 
I love it. Well said!
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thanks!
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A really great lot of memes!
Your “Mature Christian” is very odd. “we realize Bibles are everywhere: we do have access to the Word of God and can know the will of God”. Um, say what?
“We recognize the fact everyone has some sense of right and wrong (conscience). Even the most primitive cultures in the most remote regions have a code of conduct”. Leave aside the insulting (and wrong) “primitive”, the fact that every culture has a “code of conduct”, a morality, a set of rules for living with others in a society, means that your “god” and your bible are just one of many ways that people find to live together. There is no absolute morality because all are different.
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Christians can be terribly addled. Curious how these TrueBelievers(tm) can’t agree amongst themselves what this god wants.
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ROTFLMAO at the meme of Jesus having an argument with a fig tree! Reminiscent of Fizban the Fabulous in Dragonlance, arguing with a tree (but fortunately the tree lived – Fizban just wanted the tree arrested for blocking his sunlight.)
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Oh no, I remember that now!
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hello there, I’m not obi-wan, rather I am a follower of Jesus of Nazareth. Go ahead, I will let your snickering subside. I stumbled upon this emotionally charged, giant ad hominem against “
idiotic Christian’s and their intolerant bully of a god” my summation of your genetic fallacies, and straw men. Now if I may, I am an observer of Reality, and I derive my believes from what I observe in Nature and in Scripture. I have taken the secular scientific method seriously and I believe it collapses upon itself any time it’s brought up you ATHEISTS, are always smuggling language that belongs to Theists and Christ followers more specifically, because we can ground words like : Good, Evil. I assume you are a naturalist, and a atheist (agnostic, if you tend to be more honest with yourself ) you whine and complain about God liking the smell of burning flesh, I would like to know what is YOUR objection to this? All you can say is how YOU don’t prefer it, but claiming God as immoral or something, I’m sorry you aren’t going to get away with that on my watch. What do you mean by immoral?
please do not just blow me off as another stupid cultist. I tried to take you out comments seriously. Please do that same, GODSPEED!!
Chris James
Gal 2:20-21
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Christopher, you certainly aren’t obi-wan, and claiming you are a follower of “Jesus of Nazareth” is essentially meaningless since christians can’t agree on what that means.
You also show you have no idea what an ad hominem argument is, which is typical of many theists. Saying you are wrong isn’t an ad hominem argument. An ad hominem argument is when one brings in irrelevant information to try to discount an opponent in a discussion.
The bible god is quite the intolerant bully, considering how it commits and commands genocide repeatedly in the bible. You of course have cited no instances of me using “genetic fallacies” and “straw men”.
No evidence you are an “observer of reality”, and every cult claims what you do, that nature is evidence for their nonsense and that their “scriptures” are valid. You can show neither claim to be true.
You depend on the scientific method every day, and as usual, you can’t show that your claim that it “collapses” is true either. You then try the tired old lie from christians that somehow we have stolen your nonsenes when that is not the case at all. What little that is worthwhile in your silly bible was around long before your religion.
Christians notably can’t agree on what is good or evil, and their morality is demonstrably subjective, with each inventing a list of morals they claim their god wants, and yet the poor dears can’t show that their god merely exists, much less agrees with them. They also have the problem that they must insist that their god doesn’t have to follow these supposedly “objective” morals since they have to invent excuses why it is okay for this god to commit genocide, to kill people for the actions of others, etc. This makes their morality subjective to who someone is. it also shows their morality is little more than might equals right.
It’s always great fun when a christian tries to tell me that I can’t be an atheist. That is a typical bit of nonsense said by these cultists who are terrified of atheists since we show that no one needs their nonsense.
You *are* just another very ignorant cultist. I take your comments seriously and have no problem show how you have failed miserably. No one needs to respect willful ignorance and lies. It’s always rather funny when a christian can’t actually quote his bible and get the whole sentences involved.
“19 For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ; 20 and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not nullify the grace of God; for if justification comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing.” Galatians 2
Yep, just one more Paulianist who ignores Jesus since ol’ JC is considerably more inconvenient than Paul. Christians can’t agree on how one is “saved” and they make up many things. I’m quite happy to no longer have to make up nonsense that excuses the ridiculous human blood sacrifice by torture that this god needed. I am responsible for my own actions. I don’t have to have someone else killed for them.
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Here’s where you made your mistake: I derive my believes from what I observe in Nature and in Scripture. You need to leave out the “scripture” part and you might actually discover why folks are atheists.
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I suspect Christopher will never be seen again. I am entertaining myself with that seminary student from before. Oy, what a poor ignorant fellow he is.
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Christopher, how do you reconcile the many occasions when nature and scripture are at odds?
Homo sapiens sapiens didn’t magically appear in their modern form – they evolved from previous hominins over millions of years. (Creation myth in Genesis)
A six-day creation is ridiculous. Nearly 10 billion years elapsed between the Big Bang and the formation of the Earth. (Genesis again)
There was never a flood that covered the entirety of the Earth. (Gee, you’d think Genesis would get one thing right…)
Pi is not equal to 3.0. (1 Kings 7:23-26)
The only four-legged insects are injured ones – the correct number is six. (Leviticus 11:20-23)
And, of course, the fact that people don’t come back from the dead in the real world…
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