Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – a return from the past, and more TrueChristian nonsense about women, slavery, and predestination plus an announcement

Thank you, John Z.
Thank you, John Z.

I’m back from vacation. And what do I find?  A great comment to do a blog post on.

One of the TrueChristians from the past has decided to return to the blog.  Ostensibly to see if I was behaving myself.  You know, us women can’t be trusted.  🙂   Of course Woody was around in February and of course couldn’t actually answer questions put to him.  Here’s one outstanding one: “But I’ll play but I need to know when Moses lived. Give me a date. You have one, right?”  Alas, Woody seems unable to provide this date.

Woody has taken it upon himself to remark upon my post about costuming.  He is completely sure that women need to dress “modestly”.   Yes, we have a TrueChristian who is no different from a TrueJew or a TrueMuslim when it comes to telling women to act subservient and to wear only things that won’t make a man all sexually aroused.  It’s truly a pity that these people have evidently no self-control.  I suppose they must walk around constantly besieged by erections like a boy in junior high school.

Dear Woody has seen fit to mention some great bible verses about this from 1 Peter.  He uses this set:

“Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. (I Peter 3:1-4)”

Unsurprisingly, Woody’s version of TrueChristianity is great for men who are frightened of women.   I also love to see that Christians again disagree on what their god means and wants.   Poor Woody, he so badly wanted me to ask my husband for his answers to Woody’s nonsense and my husband just laughed at such a pitiful man.

We do have to thank him for mentioning 1 Peter.  It’s grand fun to see where it fails again and again.  Let’s look:

“7 The end of all things is near.” 

Yep, real near than hundreds of years have passed and the “end of all things” is no where to be seen.  Let me guess, he’ll claim that “near” really doesn’t mean “near” just like another TrueChristian we’ve seen.

Oh and this one is good

“13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. “

Amazing on how many TrueChristians are whining and doing anything but “submitting” to human authorities, like President Obama.   But I’m sure that Woody supports everything that Obama does since his god put the president into power  just like the bible says.  Right, Woody?  Or will we have excuses on how the TrueChristian uses his magic decoder ring to know who his god has “really” put into power.   Hmmm, would that be if the leader agrees with the TrueChristian?  And then how can we tell since TrueChristians don’t agree?

And here’s another good one from 1 Peter:

“18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God.”

Yep, one of the best verses to show that the bible is not against slavery at all.   Now, if Woody’s all sure that the verses about women should be followed, surely he has no problem with slavery. And this isn’t about some indentured servitude or some other excuse by a TrueChristian, this is about slavery in all its awful reality where masters are unjust and who harm their slaves.  If you are okay with telling women to act submissive, you are good with telling slaves to not disobey their masters and seek their freedom.

And finally, we have this lovely book from the bible doing a pretty good job at saying that the Calvinists are the right ones, that there is no free will and there are only the “elect”.  I wonder, is Woody a TrueChristian who claims  that this is true or is he another kind of TrueChristian that is sure that there is free will to choose his god.   I wonder how  many of the commandments that Woody ignores since they are indeed terribly inconvenient.  Perhaps the one about shrimp? Wearing mixed fibers?  Is he out there picketing courthouses against divorce?  Is he insisting that children who disobey their parents deserve death like Paul does in Romans?  Maybe, we know that other TrueChristians do so.

Again, a nice quick blog post to celebrate being back from vacation.  I’ll have a couple of posts about the fun we had in a few days.

Lastly, an announcement:  all comments are under moderation right now.  Alas, the bouncers had to come down on a rather nasty TrueChristian, who had no problem lying repeatedly, making rather amusing but tedious insults when it was demonstrated that he has no evidence for his claims and not answering questions in our discussion.  You can see this TrueChristian at his “finest” here, among other places on the blog.  Club Schadenfreude isn’t a free soap box and it’s certainly no place for someone who only seems to want to cast a bad light on other Christians.   I’m sure that our TrueChristian will insist that he has “won” something.  That’s more than fine with me,  it’s just another bit of nonsense I can point to.

7 thoughts on “Not So Polite Dinner Conversation – a return from the past, and more TrueChristian nonsense about women, slavery, and predestination plus an announcement

      1. Heck, it is inconvienent to actually either to not tax exempt status OR lobby to have the religous laws to affect those that think of their book as having equal validity to Grimm’s farie tales.


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