I have the following. Please do feel free to borrow as you will. I will guess that my Christian blog followers will be deathly silent.
We have had the pleasure of watching at least two Catholics (I had mistakenly called them evangelical Christians) lie under oath, Kavanaugh and Barrett. (most curious since evangelicals are sure that Catholics are heretics at best and satanworhippers at worst) They took their oaths on bibles and per their god. They claimed they would allow precedent to stand. They lied, quite intentionally, and happily have shown that there is no reason to trust Christians at all. I do wonder, do they think if they pray for “forgiveness” and their god will accept that, or will they simply treat it as a vending machine, doing what they want, and demanding forgiveness every time. Hmmm, nothing like liars and hypocrites underlining how useless Christianity is. They have shown that no one can trust a conservative Christian at all; they are cultists, little different from the Taliban.
In my latest Freedom from Religion Foundation newsletter, I have the story of Arely Hernandez, killed by Christians during a supposed “exorcism”. They beat her to death and starved her until she died. Her mother’s words were “It is what it is.” So much for this religion being “pro-life”. One has to wonder where this god was, since it supposedly could have stopped it. Did its plan require a little girl to suffer and die? Where are the Christians taking a fit about this? Oh yes, they have much trouble criticizing other Christians since that means their own nonsense will be noticed.
Of course, these anti-choice people won’t agree to the fact, that since they wanted the children, it is up to them to provide good homes, good food, good medical care, good education, etc for *all* of these children. No one else now has that responsibility. You wanted these children, you now must treat them well like any one who wants children should.
Clarence Thomas said out loud what the QOP desperately hoped he wouldn’t, that any and all rulings are up for grabs. He mentioned marriage rights and contraceptive rights. Unsurprisingly, he didn’t mention miscegenation rights – inter-racial marriage), being married to a white woman. He is a hypocrite, as most, if not all, conservatives are.
The SCOTUS could have waited for next year to give this ruling. They were idiots and did it a few months before mid-term elections. It’s as if they wanted the Democrats to win. They QOP has nothing to whip their idiots into a frenzy anymore, and everyone else now knows that the Catholics and Evangelicals want to remove freedoms.
In all of history, it’s never been the good guys who take away freedoms and rights. Christians have found themselves squarely as the “baddies”, even the “liberal” ones unless they do a damn good job of showing that they have nothing to do with the wannabee theocrats.
And for your convenience, let’s see how many times this god kills children or advocates their killing in the bible.
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. -Exodus 21
If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. -Proverbs 20
All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. – Leviticus 20
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. – Deut 13
Anyone else who goes too near the Tabernacle will be executed.’ – Numbers 1
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. – Isaiah 14:21
The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered.” O LORD, what should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don’t give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, “All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children.” – Hosea 9
“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” Hosea 9
And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. – Exodus 12
“With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. – Jeremiah 51
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. – Leviticus 26
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. – Isaiah 13
‘I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, and deal with him and all that he has under the ban. Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.’ – 1 Samuel 15
Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood. – Jeremiah 48
When the Israelite army finished killing all the men outside the city, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai was wiped out that day – twelve thousand in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. Only the cattle and the treasures of the city were not destroyed, for the Israelites kept these for themselves, as the LORD had commanded Joshua. – Joshua 8
They completely destroyed everything in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, donkeys – everything. – Joshua 6
And since you have turned your back on me, I will bring disaster on your dynasty and kill all your sons, slave or free alike. I will burn up your royal dynasty as one burns up trash until it is all gone. I, the LORD, vow that the members of your family who die in the city will be eaten by dogs, and those who die in the field will be eaten by vultures.’” Then Ahijah said to Jeroboam’s wife, “Go on home, and when you enter the city, the child will die. – 1 Kings 14
The men of Israel withdrew through the territory of the Benjaminites, putting to the sword the inhabitants of the city, the livestock, and all they chanced upon. Moreover they destroyed by fire all the cities they came upon. – Judges 20
All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.” And all the Levites came. He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, “Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing.” – Exodus 32:
Then he took a spear and rushed after the man into his tent. Phinehas thrust the spear all the way through the man’s body and into the woman’s stomach. So the plague against the Israelites was stopped, but not before 24,000 people had died. – Numbers 25
The Lord struck the child whom Uriah’s wife bore to David, and it became very ill. 16 David therefore pleaded with God for the child; David fasted and went in and lay all night on the ground. 17 The elders of his house stood beside him urging him to rise from the ground, but he would not, nor did he eat food with them. 18 On the seventh day the child died. – 2 Samuel 12
Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock! – Psalm 137
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes;their houses will be plundered and their wives raped. – Isaiah 13
Thus says the Lord: I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings who sit on David’s throne, the priests, the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness. 14 And I will dash them one against another, parents and children together, says the Lord. I will not pity or spare or have compassion when I destroy them. – Jeremiah 13
23 He went up from there to Bethel, and while he was going up on the way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him, saying, “Go away, baldhead! Go away, baldhead!” 24 When he turned around and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two she-bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. 2 Kings 2
Because you have trusted in your chariots, in the multitude of your warriors,14 therefore the multitude of war shall rise against your people, and all your fortresses shall be destroyed, as Shalman destroyed Beth-arbel on the day of battle, when mothers were dashed in pieces with their children.15 Thus it shall be done to you, O Bethel, because of your great wickedness. – Hosea 10
Samaria shall bear her guilt because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the word; their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. – Hosea 13
Yet she became an exile; she went into captivity; even her infants were dashed in pieces at the head of every street; lots were cast for her nobles; all her dignitaries were bound in fetters. – Nahum 3
Of course, there are many more (and surprising, how much this god has against farm animals since it senselessly requires those killed too). Now, funny how this god promises it won’t harm children for what the parents do: 18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 What do you mean by repeating this proverb concerning the land of Israel, “The parents have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”? 3 As I live, says the Lord God, this proverb shall no more be used by you in Israel. 4 Know that all lives are mine; the life of the parent as well as the life of the child is mine: it is only the person who sins who shall die. – Ezekiel 18
All of the above can be found right here in just about any version you’d like to f – Biblegateway.com
So, was this god lying? Is this god’s morality subjective aka situational? And hmm, since this god never wanted Adam and Eve to know what evil and good were, one has to wonder if it didn’t want them to question it when it does such things and knew such things were coming. The only reason that, per the bible, that humans have morality is because Eve gave it to them. And then perhaps you have to thank the ol’ snake itself.
The common Christian excuse is “oh well, they are better off in heaven.” Nothing is quite so cold and so selfish.
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Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh and Barrett are Catholics, not “Evangelical Christians.”
Thanks Bill. I was sure otherwise. I’ll change that. Interesting since Evangelicals are sure that Catholics are heretics at best and satan worshippers at worst.
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Right. I find it ironic that the Protestant fears from JFK are exactly what those Catholics on the right are excusing or embracing.